VAIL SUCKS

[abc]

People Really Want to Ski. Vail Is Racing to Keep Up.

Worker shortages, long lines and less open terrain are making this winter season challenging for the resort titan of the ski industry. “I want you to open my mountain.”

www.wsj.com

Big article in the WSJ today about Vail

Pretty soft regarding NH:

"Vail had its challenges in New Hampshire, as well. In the southern part of that state, Vail’s Crotched Mountain made changes to its schedule by closing Mondays and Tuesdays during the regular season, and removing popular sessions that stayed open past midnight. It had 57% of its terrain open as of Friday morning. At Crotched, it said, the change to a five-day schedule “allows our resort teams to better focus on delivering the best possible ski and ride experience for our guests.” It continues to hire and reassess operations there, the company added."

No mentioning of percentage at Wildcat and Attitash.
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[eatskisleep]

Pretty soft regarding NH:

"Vail had its challenges in New Hampshire, as well. In the southern part of that state, Vail’s Crotched Mountain made changes to its schedule by closing Mondays and Tuesdays during the regular season, and removing popular sessions that stayed open past midnight. It had 57% of its terrain open as of Friday morning. At Crotched, it said, the change to a five-day schedule “allows our resort teams to better focus on delivering the best possible ski and ride experience for our guests.” It continues to hire and reassess operations there, the company added."

No mentioning of percentage at Wildcat and Attitash.
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Yeah very disappointed about that

 

[skimagic]

Just what I thought from WSJ, too many people complaining about nothing. Stats show 90% of vail liftines are less than 10 minutes and open terrain is comparable to competitors. Enjoy the epic experience people.

 

[PAabe]

People Really Want to Ski. Vail Is Racing to Keep Up.

Worker shortages, long lines and less open terrain are making this winter season challenging for the resort titan of the ski industry. “I want you to open my mountain.”

www.wsj.com

Big article in the WSJ today about Vail

Did Vail pay them to write that article or what. Not critical of them at all and says competitors in VT and NH have such as Cannon have similar staffing issues and terrain open.

Also does not mention any of Vail's employee retention or middle management fiascos, or that competitors have done far better in terms of staffing and wages
lmao

 

[MadKitty]

Well now....

Mount Sunapee Becomes Latest Vail Mountain to Issue Apology

After a slow start to their snowmaking efforts this season, along with a bumper-to-bumper traffic jam on Saturday, Mount Sunapee released a video

unofficialnetworks.com

He forgot to mention Sunapee's snowmakers were "loaned" to Okemo for a week before xmas...

 

[kendo]

People Really Want to Ski. Vail Is Racing to Keep Up.

Worker shortages, long lines and less open terrain are making this winter season challenging for the resort titan of the ski industry. “I want you to open my mountain.”

www.wsj.com

Big article in the WSJ today about Vail

WJS says they interviewed the CEO on Friday and yet the 2150 word article contains exactly 52 words from the CEO. Everything in the article was already well documented by others. Cut, paste and fluff is now the WSJ journalistic standard.

First question from WSJ should have been:

The Epic pass Core season for Epic coverage is 12/7 - 4/17, what are you doing to ensure the product your customers purchased is delivered by 12/7 and how will you ensure it's in place through 4/17?

and then go from there...

 

[Edd]

Vail PR, flooding the zone with "facts" and dodging all hard questions.

 

[jimmywilson69]

 

[skimagic]

Vail PR, flooding the zone with "facts" and dodging all hard questions.

Angry Epic schmucks ripping the fake news in the article comment section.

 

[deadheadskier]

Yeah, but those violin players in the lobby!

 

[ThatGuy]

Yeah, but those violin players in the lobby!

You gotta buy the lifeboat access pass to hear those though

 

[deadheadskier]

You gotta buy the lifeboat access pass to hear those though

They're probably on strike too anyways

I'm told management is aware of the problem

 

[thetrailboss]

People Really Want to Ski. Vail Is Racing to Keep Up.

Worker shortages, long lines and less open terrain are making this winter season challenging for the resort titan of the ski industry. “I want you to open my mountain.”

www.wsj.com

Big article in the WSJ today about Vail

That’s a one-sided article IMHO. They let Vail downplay the issues.

And I saw that they interviewed Pats Peak. Pats Peak FTW!

 

[thetrailboss]

Absolutely agree. But look at Bachelor, Skyliner is an older model pure Dopp HSQ and it is down indefinitely due to a component that Dopp doesn't fully support any longer (too old). I doubt Dopp keeps much of the old Garaventa gear lying around on shelves. They can support surely, but likely not quick fixes.

Well, we are talking about a POWDR resort. The best in incompetence….

 

[TahoeDad]

Sunapee floated an idea to the town to stop selling day lift tickets on weekends and holidays to alleviate crowding and traffic concerns. Sunapee is a state park - not sure that can be an option. Vail took over the lease a few years ago, not sure how many years are left. It used to be a nice place to go.

 

[thetrailboss]

Sunapee floated an idea to the town to stop selling day lift tickets on weekends and holidays to alleviate crowding and traffic concerns. Sunapee is a state park - not sure that can be an option. Vail took over the lease a few years ago, not sure how many years are left. It used to be a nice place to go.

Frankly, limiting day ticket sales is a joke considering the "new" business model. Vail is actively deterring folks from buying day tickets so that they are forced to go Epic. Day ticket purchasers are fairweather skiers and riders who are fickle and harder to attract. They also do not go out that often. So the entire business model has focused on pushing people to buy season passes that are "discounted". So it is an empty promise as Epic Passes are not limited.

Alterra does the same thing with Deer Valley. Folks have noticed that Deer Valley is now more crowded despite the continued "restricted day ticket sales." The dirty secret is that yes day tickets are limited, but that was already the case anyway. They don't restrict IKON passholders on normal days. They can't.

 

[eatskisleep]

Yes it is just to get people to say “oh no we booked a house this weekend... and we can’t buy lift tickets... let’s just get an epic pass instead”

 

[snoseek]

Another check of the Wildcat webcam and another day of no apparent snowmaking. Is Lynx going to actually open this year? Only mother nature can answer that

 

[deadheadskier]

18% of terrain open at Cat and 31% (sounds high) for Attitash. Epic MLK weekend product

 

[IceEidolon]

Western Plan skiing. One trail per lift of solid snowmaking, then supplement natural snowfall with reconditioning snow elsewhere. If you have a good snow year, you save so much money!