VAIL SUCKS

[deadheadskier]

Whoa. Some key points:

I know Kim personally from my Stowe days.

That was something to read coming from him. He makes Dr Jeff look like a pessimist

 

[Mainer]

I do remember the people on this board complaining when the pass price decrease happened, so at least we saw the crowds coming. And idiots like me still bought a pass because it was cheap.

 

[deadheadskier]

"It would be a major concession for me to say they drove me out of here and it’s not going to happen. But I’m not going to be the guy that says Stowe is awesome."

This is where I'm at with Wildcat currently. I likely won't leave, but I'm not telling people it's worth coming either. That said, through the game theory lens Vail still wins because I don't influence many people's decisions and Vail still gets my $$

Are you tied geographically to Wildcat?

It's very hard for me to not own a Wildcat pass. My favorite mountain and vibe in NH, but it's just such a shit show now. I would be so angry this year had I bought a pass there. Hell I still am. That was the place I wanted to raise my kids skiing.

 

[Kingslug20]

I feel the same lately...it woukd really piss me off if i let vail drive me away from Stowe...its been very god there lately...yes natural sniw will do that...but 2300 vert of steep moguls is hard to come by anywhere else...

 

[KustyTheKlown]

I feel the same lately...it woukd really piss me off if i let vail drive me away from Stowe...its been very god there lately...yes natural sniw will do that...but 2300 vert of steep moguls is hard to come by anywhere else...

plenty of places to ski long bump runs. what makes stowe special is the tree-skiing and the sidecountry.

 

[pinion]

Are you tied geographically to Wildcat?

It's very hard for me to not own a Wildcat pass. My favorite mountain and vibe in NH, but it's just such a shit show now. I would be so angry this year had I bought a pass there. Hell I still am. That was the place I wanted to raise my kids skiing.

I am in North Conway for weekends/holidays. We are willing to travel occasionally (Cannon, Sunday River), but the easiest for us to hit are Cranmore, Attitash, Black, and Wildcat. Shawnee and King Pine are options but not for daily skiing due to size. Cranmore grooms everything... not my bag. Black is ok but their struggles are real the past 10 years and consistency until Feb is a now yearly issue.

For me and my fam Wildcat is the best for daily vert + challenge + character within 30 minutes drive. Honestly the SuperPass would be fine for next year since we can rely more heavily on some combo of Cranmore/Cannon. Coming into this season I refused to believe things could be worse than last year. I have been known to be wrong from time to time

 

[2Planker]

Came across this great video about the ski patrol at Jackson. Good reminder about the importance of institutional knowledge and local community at ski resorts. Vail execs should watch:

Seen many kids grow up in a top shack w/ us. Hard work from a teenager is rare these days.

 

[thebigo]

Seen many kids grow up in a top shack w/ us. Hard work from a teenager is rare these days.

Ragged was short staffed last weekend. They had what appeared to be a very young kid running one of the carpets. I asked him how old he was - kid said 11. Then I asked if he was getting paid - kid said no, my dad works here and I like to help out. The kind of conversation that restores ones faith in the next generation.

 

[Smellytele]

Ragged was short staffed last weekend. They had what appeared to be a very young kid running one of the carpets. I asked him how old he was - kid said 11. Then I asked if he was getting paid - kid said no, my dad works here and I like to help out. The kind of conversation that restores ones faith in the next generation.

State of NH may not like that too much or osha

 

[ThatGuy]

Wait till Vail learns about this new cost cutting measure…..child labor

 

[kendo]

Great pic in this article on Vail. Case filled with epic amounts of cash & excuses!





source: https://snowbrains.com/vail-resorts-mid-season-analysis/

 

[ss20]

State of NH may not like that too much or osha

lol my thoughts exactly...but I agree that kid is growing up right! I couldn't even let people under 18 work the drills to set-up netting...because...power tools hahaha. To be fair though 9/10 days when the groomed snow was literally 3" deep it really could yank ya and possibly break your wrist once you hit the cold, hard, solid dirt.

 

[JimG.]

When I went sky diving they had a film showing a lawyer dressed like that jumping out of the plane. It was a short film to tell us that by signing the liability waiver we had no recourse to sue if there was an incident.

 

[Kingslug20]

I would imagine..after an incident...others would be trying to sue...

 

[skiur]

When I went sky diving they had a film showing a lawyer dressed like that jumping out of the plane. It was a short film to tell us that by signing the liability waiver we had no recourse to sue if there was an incident

No recourse unless the lawyer can prove negligence. Personal injury lawyers are pretty good at that.

 

[drjeff]

The middle road is the vaccine works in preventing serious illness and death. It doesn’t prevent spread, Fauci just said the same thing. The mandate kind of made sense before all the breakthrough cases, makes zero sense with omnicron. A snowmaker has a far greater chance of dying on the job then dying of covid. So if they are willing to take the risk of the job, they should be willing to take the risk of not getting the vaccine. It’s also more dangerous for a 20 yr old driving to work then not being vaccinated.
This pandemic could almost be over but instead of celebrating. People are still bitching about unvaccinated. I think people like the pandemic and can’t let it go. The people still bitching about masks and vaccines are just as bad as the people still with a trump sign on their lawn. Time to move on, shows over.

The way that the positivity rates in the Northeast are dropping right now, Omicron has infected most everyone it could, and short of the really old with multiple co-morbidities and/or some very select, very immunocompromised individuals, the Northeast will be close to pre Omicron positivity rates by Pres Week if not sooner. And likely before the "free" gov't at home tests and N95 masks arrive in many folks mailboxes.

The high infectivity rate and fortunately for most, low virulence of Omicron did its thing in the Northeast and realistically peaked in the 1st 10 days of January

 

[abc]

It clearly had peaked. Just a matter of how big and long the tail is.

 

[deadheadskier]

The way that the positivity rates in the Northeast are dropping right now, Omicron has infected most everyone it could, and short of the really old with multiple co-morbidities and/or some very select, very immunocompromised individuals, the Northeast will be close to pre Omicron positivity rates by Pres Week if not sooner. And likely before the "free" gov't at home tests and N95 masks arrive in many folks mailboxes.

The high infectivity rate and fortunately for most, low virulence of Omicron did its thing in the Northeast and realistically peaked in the 1st 10 days of January

Yup.

You know where Omicron is peaking right now? Cancun. My company President came to his senses on Wednesday and cancelled our National meeting in Mexico next weekend. Realized there was a pretty good chance many of his personnel would test positive down there and get stranded taking them out of the field for 5 to 10 days.

Gained my ski weekend with my kids back.

 

[thetrailboss]

Back to Vail. It sucks.

 

[thetrailboss]

State of NH may not like that too much or osha

What they don’t know won’t hurt them