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Mainer

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This could be completely wrong. But I wonder if the attitash gm that resigned, applied for the forest service application without vail’s approval. Hence the out of the blue resignation.
 

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This could be completely wrong. But I wonder if the attitash gm that resigned, applied for the forest service application without vail’s approval. Hence the out of the blue resignation.

That would be an incredible F U to corporate... I would like to wish that was the case.

Or corporate told him he had to install the lift with his summer staff team...so himself and a couple 20-somethings.
 

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Went to Pats Peak for the first time ever this afternoon and had a great time. Was worried about crowding since it was sold out, and it was busy, but they had 3 lifts going to the top, Hurricane Triple and Vortex Double were pretty much ski on and the Summit Triple had maybe a 5 minute wait.

On way home I was planning on hitting Crotched for an hour, never been there either, and I figured near end of day Sunday it would have emptied out a bit. However the line for the Rocket chair was enormous ! I didn’t even bother getting out of the car, bailed completely and went home.
 

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If this were to happen I would recommend Vail charge entry to the viewing platform at Attitash summit. I would pay good money to have a 360 degree view of a fully loaded six-pack empty into that trail network.
Remember though they could order a 6 pack without a full complement of chairs, IE limiting capacity to say 1800 to 2000 SPH. This has been done before, IRC I believe Ragged did this with their 6 pack when they first installed it. A few years later they ordered the extra chairs to bring it to full capacity. Vail could do the same once they progress to applying for and getting approval for additional terrain off the summit.
 

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Went to Pats Peak for the first time ever this afternoon and had a great time. Was worried about crowding since it was sold out, and it was busy, but they had 3 lifts going to the top, Hurricane Triple and Vortex Double were pretty much ski on and the Summit Triple had maybe a 5 minute wait.

On way home I was planning on hitting Crotched for an hour, never been there either, and I figured near end of day Sunday it would have emptied out a bit. However the line for the Rocket chair was enormous ! I didn’t even bother getting out of the car, bailed completely and went home.
Did they have Valley spinning too or did you not notice?
 

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Update: Crotched tweeted at 2:51 that Vally was now open, but I had bailed a little while before that.
 

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If this were to happen I would recommend Vail charge entry to the viewing platform at Attitash summit. I would pay good money to have a 360 degree view of a fully loaded six-pack empty into that trail network.
Honestly it's a better trail network with better skiers than Sugar Mtn NC, which has, during night skiing, only one narrow blue off the summit being fed by a HS6 and a double. As long as they also bump up the snowmaking a bit to go with the new lift it'll be fine.

But this is Vail so they might just get a fixed grip quad "as part of an incremental upgrade strategy" or some crap.
 

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A fixed quad would be fine. Just needs to be a little faster and not break down. But if you aren’t going to blow snow or run all the lifts, the mountain is still going to suck.
 

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I think a chair that length really needs to be a high speed chair. It's 6200 feet long. I believe even with a conveyor load, a Fixed Grip quad maxes out at 450 feet per minute. So still almost a 14 minute ride. I'll take a six minute ride thank you
 

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This could be completely wrong. But I wonder if the attitash gm that resigned, applied for the forest service application without vail’s approval. Hence the out of the blue resignation.
Highly doubt that was true, as given the vast amount of detail that has to be included with the application, this isn't something that just gets submitted on a whim.

Typically it's a month's long process to get all of the needed engineering and environmental documentation needed to complete the permit application
 

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I think a chair that length really needs to be a high speed chair. It's 6200 feet long. I believe even with a conveyor load, a Fixed Grip quad maxes out at 450 feet per minute. So still almost a 14 minute ride. I'll take a six minute ride thank you

Agree!

The majority of the masses, whom buy most of the tickets and utilize ski area rentals, lessons and food and beverage options tend to frown upon most any lift that has a ride time of 10 minutes or longer, with the exception of maybe a few select gondolas
 

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Edit:
It seems both Pats Peak and Crotched have a chairlift named “Valley” !
But only one ”Valley” lift was running today, guess which :)
The much older one at the smaller ski area was open. Shows you that bigger is not always better.
 

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This could be completely wrong. But I wonder if the attitash gm that resigned, applied for the forest service application without vail’s approval. Hence the out of the blue resignation.
Highly doubt it. I believe that the name on the application was from someone who was at Vail Central HQ.
 

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I believe it was signed by Greg Gavrilets the former gm. The application appeared on the internet and the gm resigned the next day. Also when epic announced all the lift upgrades, they never mentioned replacing the triple. Only mentioned the replacing of double double. I don’t believe vail has publicly announced Triple replacement yet. They seem the type of place to say we planned on replacing triple but forest service wouldn’t approve.
 
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