True on the timing and weird PR aspects.
I'm seeing that it was submitted on September 2, 2021 and signed by James Innes. He indicated it was appropriate for "Small Projects Day" review, which I imagine is probably an expedited process.
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I'm seeing that it was submitted on September 2, 2021 and signed by James Innes. He indicated it was appropriate for "Small Projects Day" review, which I imagine is probably an expedited process.
drjeff
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In past years, Vail will often end up installing more lifts than they announce in November.
So if they do replace the triple for next season, wouldn't be an unprecedented thing that it wasn't on their initial list of new lifts for next season
James Innes is the district ranger for the Forest Service in that region...
Makes sense I guess considering it is USFS owned land. I see that the now former Attitash GM was listed as the contact.
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A mountain host at Attitash told me that they are expecting an ops crew of 12 to arrive this week from Tahoe to assist. Any truth to this?
Streamlining small-project review during Small Projects Day | US Forest Service
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It seems like this application is the quick form. The whole timing could be coincidence, as the gm got a new job immediately. But something seems off.
Skied king pine today, 100% open. So tiny, but the kids were entertained. I’ve gotten to the point were my epic pass Is just a sunk cost, and it’s funny how bad they suck. Wildcat blew snow on Thursday and Friday of this week and they might be it for January’s effort. 2 days all month of snowmaking. 1 top to bottom snowmaking trail open almost February. Every non epic mountain in the mwv seems back to normal, atticat
I would think USFS would have made a decision already......Streamlining small-project review during Small Projects Day | US Forest Service
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It seems like this application is the quick form. The whole timing could be coincidence, as the gm got a new job immediately. But something seems off.
Skied king pine today, 100% open. So tiny, but the kids were entertained. I’ve gotten to the point were my epic pass Is just a sunk cost, and it’s funny how bad they suck. Wildcat blew snow on Thursday and Friday of this week and they might be it for January’s effort. 2 days all month of snowmaking. 1 top to bottom snowmaking trail open almost February. Every non epic mountain in the mwv seems back to normal, atticat
Man Imagine working at Kirkwood for the winter and getting shipped to Attitash. Hope they get paid at least.
Seems a little late. One of the articles I posted indicated they were shipping staff from Heavenly up to Stevens Pass in order to deal with their staffing issues.
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So now Heavenly will have staffing shortages instead? Maybe they figure the skiers there will make less of a fuss about it.
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This is getting nuts...
jimmywilson69
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Maybe Heavenly is staffed appropriately? Or appropriately enough that they can send some up there? IDK... While in general I think Vail is failing miserably, Id also like to think that some longer time staff still work throughout and can run a resort reasonably. My small hill in PA seems to be staffed appropriately and operating appropriately. Crazing that we actually have J1s working here doing lifts.
I think Vail got caught with their pants down on the hiring thing and in typical corporate fashion didn't want to or couldn't move fast enough to make changes to make sure they were staffed appropriately in all markets.
I think Vail got caught with their pants down on the hiring thing and in typical corporate fashion didn't want to or couldn't move fast enough to make changes to make sure they were staffed appropriately in all markets.
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How does one get an actual copy of the application and check status?
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Heavenly is probably done with snowmaking - though maybe not with wrapup - and can send parts of their snowmaking crew out without shorting other departments.
Several snowmakers from crested butte were at wildcat today. Word is they will be here for about a week. I miss only having to share employees with Attitash.
How long until all Vail's snowmakers are J1 slaves they rotate around they country?
How long until all Vail's snowmakers are J1 slaves they rotate around they country?
drjeff
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Probably far less liability risk to have experienced crews brought in than train up folks who haven't made snow before.
Let alone the fact that those other crews very may well have other important things within the Vail liability system, such as certification on snowmobile operation, as well.
Ideal? Nope
The "easier" stop gap solution to a big problem? Maybe
Pretty crazy that Vail will pay to fly people across the US to make snow, yet won't pay a decent competitive local rate to avoid having to do that in the first place. Will be interesting to see if they learn from this next year and adjust wages to be a bit more attractive and in line with the local market.
Smellytele
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So every year are Fails western resorts going to get the early season snow making then the move east when they aren't needed any more out west?
