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VAIL SUCKS

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I know this is stupid and completely unrelated, but I love that the guy who wrote the hot dog story has the last name Hamburger.
SAD, It's pretty hard to Fuck Up a hot dog....
Sounds like they need another Vail Food & Bev. manager to be the New GM
 

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This makes the $12 hot dog at Deer Valley look like an absolute steal (given it's Niman Ranch, hot, and not so sad looking)!
 

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This makes the $12 hot dog at Deer Valley look like an absolute steal (given it's Niman Ranch, hot, and not so sad looking)!
The best deal at DV is the $20 burger at the Montage. Locally sourced burger, comes with fries and pickles. Honestly you leave there feeling like you didn't get ripped off......as long as you opt for water vs the $7 coffee or soda.

The turkey chili (idk $$) was REALLY good at one of the DV lodges too.
 

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The best deal at DV is the $20 burger at the Montage. Locally sourced burger, comes with fries and pickles. Honestly you leave there feeling like you didn't get ripped off......as long as you opt for water vs the $7 coffee or soda.

The turkey chili (idk $$) was REALLY good at one of the DV lodges too.
My go-to at DV is turkey chili over french fries. Powers me through last chair. Maybe $15? Totally worth it.

Last time I was at PCMR (4 years ago?) the on-mountain food scene seemed pretty solid. Sad that it has seemingly suffered the same fate as the rest of the resort.
 

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My go-to at DV is turkey chili over french fries. Powers me through last chair. Maybe $15? Totally worth it.

Last time I was at PCMR (4 years ago?) the food scene seemed pretty solid. Sad that it has seemingly suffered the same fate as the rest of the resort.
I'd buy the $20 burger all day and have the $15 turkey chili for lunch. I would never, ever, ever buy a $9 cold hot dog when I could put a PJ&J in my pocket.
The chili is signature. People are excited to buy it and the profit margin is tremendous.

Vail's missing the big picture. Fool me once...
 

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Vail corp video crew drinking at Spruce Lodge bar at Stowe. Promo video for east coast resorts. Dude's from Wyoming. First trip east. At Mt Snow tomorrow and then Hunter.

He was commenting how crowded it was here at Stowe (um, it's literally dead today). I suggested he tightened his helmet when he hits Hunter. 😁
 

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Think they were with TGR. Mentioned they got a sunset shot of the (soon to be iconic) Stowe sign, top of the gondola. 👎

Can't see anything up top today... pea soup.
 

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I'd buy the $20 burger all day and have the $15 turkey chili for lunch. I would never, ever, ever buy a $9 cold hot dog when I could put a PJ&J in my pocket.
The chili is signature. People are excited to buy it and the profit margin is tremendous.

Vail's missing the big picture. Fool me once...

DV turkey chili with a piece of their German Chocolate Cake for dessert is without a doubt my absolute favorite on hill meal I have had
 

thetrailboss

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Very interesting statistic from this article:


More than 25 percent of Stowe’s reservations come from Massachusetts (the most popular of visiting states). New York accounts for 17 percent, while 12 percent come from Connecticut, for a combined 29 percent. Talk about an intriguing coming together of the clans. Seems like Yankees and Red Sox fans don’t disagree on everything.

I would have thought more NYers. Kind of sinks my idea that Vail was appeasing the NY market and not MA market.

And I never heard it called the "Vail of the East"--I've heard it called the "Aspen of the East".

Though known in some circles as “The Vail of the East,” that moniker smacks of hyperbole (even though Stowe came under the Vail umbrella five years ago).
 

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Very interesting statistic from this article:




I would have thought more NYers. Kind of sinks my idea that Vail was appeasing the NY market and not MA market.

And I never heard it called the "Vail of the East"--I've heard it called the "Aspen of the East".
Wow no kidding. I wonder what the breakdown for a place like loon would work out to. I would love to see a bunch of areas and data for this kind of thing.

Oh and as far as ski area food goes I will ski at a vail property but never give them any other money. I've costed lots of menus for various sit downs...it's just so wrong. If you find yourself at Northstar remember lunch and cocktails will be infinitely better and quite a bit cheaper if you walk into the Ritz. That blows my mind.

If the village has indy bar or restaurant that's not paying lease to vail I'm all over it.
 

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Wow no kidding. I wonder what the breakdown for a place like loon would work out to. I would love to see a bunch of areas and data for this kind of thing.

Oh and as far as ski area food goes I will ski at a vail property but never give them any other money. I've costed lots of menus for various sit downs...it's just so wrong. If you find yourself at Northstar remember lunch and cocktails will be infinitely better and quite a bit cheaper if you walk into the Ritz. That blows my mind.

If the village has indy bar or restaurant that's not paying lease to vail I'm all over it.

anecdotally, hardly anyone from ny skis loon/nh. most people i talk to down here who are moderately conversant in vermont ski areas don't know shit about NH. and the parking lot at cannon and loon is mass plates as far as the eye can see.

there just isn't much reason to ski NH and drive that far east when VT is more directly north of us.

i personally love getting a few days in NH and ME, but the overwhelming majority of my skiing has always been and will always be in VT
 

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anecdotally, hardly anyone from ny skis loon/nh. most people i talk to down here who are moderately conversant in vermont ski areas don't know shit about NH. and the parking lot at cannon and loon is mass plates as far as the eye can see.

there just isn't much reason to ski NH and drive that far east when VT is more directly north of us.

i personally love getting a few days in NH and ME, but the overwhelming majority of my skiing has always been and will always be in VT
There's no getting away from the fact the Greens gets quite a lot more snow than the Whites.

Also in terms of driving, crossing east-west is just slow going. Whilst shooting straight up north, even all the way to Jay, is much less stressful, especially in iffy weather.

I go to NH a lot, for other reasons. I love Wildcat and enjoyed Attitash. But if I didn't have other reason to go to NH in the first place, I don't think I would have known enough about those mountains, let alone going there specifically to ski them.

What I used to like about skiing WC was the early and late season. But with Vail botching those operations, I haven't skied it the last 2 years. That fact also weights in when I pretty much decide not to renew my Epic pass going forward. (it's only a small factor though)
 
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