VAIL SUCKS

[BenedictGomez]

I expect most people live more than an hour away from a mountain they own a second house at.

Really? That seems to defeat much of the purpose IMO.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Feel free to Vail-bash the busted lifts, chairs falling off, no snow making, no snow grooming, not enough help...

But other than that how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

 

[Smellytele]

I doubt that you want any government entity doing that. What's more likely to happen is that the situation will sort itself out. How many people that waited in the long line to find out there's no parking left, or those who found parking but only got a few runs in all day (assuming they were there to ski and not drink) will come back next year?

Even if all of them buy passes for next year why blame Vail? Those people will be subsidizing the passes for those of us that ski Monday through Thursday, and maybe Friday. I like my cheap EPIC pass.

Before I retired I didn't ski at all if I couldn't take a day off from work to ski on a weekday. Of course now everything except for the lifts goes up faster than my social insecurity check :-(.

Feel free to Vail-bash the busted lifts, chairs falling off, no snow making, no snow grooming, not enough help...

Don’t forget some of the Fail resorts are not even open some weekdays

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

Really? That seems to defeat much of the purpose IMO.

There is no point having a second house if it takes you more than an hour to drive to it? I don't own a second house, but if I did the point would be to be able to have a place I could spend the night that was further away than a place I would want to regularly day trip to.

 

[tumbler]

First rule- you can’t be a local with out of state plates. Live there full time and get green plates then the conversation can MAYBE begin.

 

[Kingslug20]

Now that we have the mail problem sorted out..for now, we can start thst process.
As far as having a second housr 1 hour away from your main house..that is exactly what we have. When its not rented its a big difference to wake up and have a 12 minute drive to stowe instead of an hour.

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

Now that we have the mail problem sorted out..for now, we can start thst process.
As far as having a second housr 1 hour away from your main house..that is exactly what we have. When its not rented its a big difference to wake up and have a 12 minute drive to stowe instead of an hour.

For myself I can't see having a 35 minute drive to Shawnee in the Poconos instead of 90 making much of a difference, and nor would being 5:35 instead of 6:30 hrs from Jay - which are the nearest and furthest places I have driven to this winter.

If I were to get a second home for ski purposes, it would likely be somewhere in the Catskills fairly accessable to NYS Thruway that would be about 2 hrs away from my home and would put me 30-60 minutes from 4 Catskill ski areas and within day trip distance of about a dozen appealing ski areas in Adirondaks and New England

 

[RichT]

For myself I can't see having a 35 minute drive to Shawnee in the Poconos instead of 90 making much of a difference, and nor would being 5:35 instead of 6:30 hrs from Jay - which are the nearest and furthest places I have driven to this winter.

If I were to get a second home for ski purposes, it would likely be somewhere in the Catskills fairly accessable to NYS Thruway that would be about 2 hrs away from my home and would put me 30-60 minutes from 4 Catskill ski areas and within day trip distance of about a dozen appealing ski areas in Adirondaks and New England

That's exactly what we did! 32yrs ago. Now retired and we live up here Thanksgiving to Easter. Being Local or not I don't care.

 

[skiur]

My second home is 275 miles from my primary home which is about a 4.5 hour ride. If my primary house was only an hour from the mountain I wouldn't have a second home.

 

[Harvey]

My second home is 275 miles from my primary home which is about a 4.5 hour ride. If my primary house was only an hour from the mountain I wouldn't have a second home.

Mine too. If you can call it a house.

FWIW the second home market SHOULD be important to Vail. All those people "forced" to ski Epic.

 

[IceEidolon]

Really? That seems to defeat much of the purpose IMO.

They would buy a second home, which they don't live at, which is closer to a resort so they can have a short drive while they'at the second house.

If your drive to your nearest resort is an hour or more from your first house, whether or not you base out of a close rental, you're part of the demographic that is willing to make a significant commitment to go ski - and not a local.

 

[machski]

All these local/non local comparisons are just crap. Just ski, of you can rip the terrain at your resort, many committed skier's/riders won't give 2 cents how you got there. My experience anyhow.

 

[Kingslug20]

Yup

 

[IceEidolon]

It's useful to me mostly in context of target markets and relative positioning - who's Epic going after versus Indy, for example.

 

[Apple Country]

We were doing the kids lesson shuffle at Stowe the last few days. Couldn't have been better staffed between parking folks, people pointing you in right direction, etc. If you were wondering where all NH vail staff is, I found them.....

 

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[Kingslug20]

Stowe is turning out to be the least..fucked Vail resort.....good!

 

[pinion]

I spent 2 days at Cranmore (last Tues pre-thaw and then yesterday post-thaw) and man that ops crew has done some spectacular work. Decent base down the whole front side of the hill and even the north side and backside trails were skiable end of day President’s Day. Plus all lifts running. Really puts Attitash and Wildcat to shame currently. Vail sucks.

 

[jaytrem]

Stowe is turning out to be the least..fucked Vail resort.....good!

Mount Snow seems to be running more lifts more often than Peak did. So I'm pretty happy about that. Snowmaking not bad, though I'd say Peak was more aggressive early in the year. Paid parking thing is annoying, but the free parking at the bottom of the covered bridge isn't terrible.

I feel for the NH people though.

 

[Kingslug20]

They should form a class action suite against them...