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VAIL SUCKS

catskillman

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They got rid of tubing at Hunter?
Thats a shame..lot of people used to go there..
yep - need more parking to appease the town as traffic is always backed up on the 2 lane road. Hours at times and people just park anywhere. Need more spaces and it will give them more spaces to charge for in 2024. That is the plan.

Tubing was great. There were always family's there, grandparents etc.... they could watch the kids, if you don't ski, or can't keep up with kids, tubing was perfect !! That was one thing that was done right. Firepit and chairs, small lodge with hot chocolate and quick hot food. They only need a handful of people to run it and they could just do it with vending machines for refreshments and tickets vending ...

Vail does not want any work. They want to supply the minimum and just sell season passes and reconcile their bank statements....
 

raisingarizona

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yep - need more parking to appease the town as traffic is always backed up on the 2 lane road. Hours at times and people just park anywhere. Need more spaces and it will give them more spaces to charge for in 2024. That is the plan.

Tubing was great. There were always family's there, grandparents etc.... they could watch the kids, if you don't ski, or can't keep up with kids, tubing was perfect !! That was one thing that was done right. Firepit and chairs, small lodge with hot chocolate and quick hot food. They only need a handful of people to run it and they could just do it with vending machines for refreshments and tickets vending ...

Vail does not want any work. They want to supply the minimum and just sell season passes and reconcile their bank statements....
A tubing park not connected to a functioning ski area could be a good business I bet. That old, closed ski area down the road from Hunter could be a good property for such a thing maybe. Was that place called Highmont or something like that?
 

cdskier

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A tubing park not connected to a functioning ski area could be a good business I bet. That old, closed ski area down the road from Hunter could be a good property for such a thing maybe. Was that place called Highmont or something like that?
Highmount is adjacent to Belleayre (and Belleayre has had an expansion plan into the Highmount terrain as part of their master plan for a while). That's about 30 minutes from Hunter though. Is that the one you're thinking of? Or is there a different closed ski area closer to Hunter?
 

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I'm not shocked that they would remove tubing to put in a parking lot. But something that I wish would catch on are parking garages at areas. Not super tall ones, even just a two floor garage could double the space any area has. Then vail could charge for parking and not have to pay an attendant if its automated. Something like this would not look out of place at a resort.

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Jay and Stratton have parking garages. Vail itself has parking garages.
Jay does? I missed that on my last visit, which we stayed at the Tram Haus so I assume it was built by then.

Tremblant has at least one, which was under the condo-ish complex I stayed at. Blackomb had many underneath the condos nearby. That was maybe 2005 that I visited; I'd never been to any ski area with a garage at that point.
 

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Is Attitash going to be open this summer? They’ve had 2 or 3 years now to figure out how to staff it…

Confirmed that the answer is no by the letter they released this afternoon from their GM:


A letter from the GM:

Hi everyone, my name is Brandon Swartz and I am the new General Manager here at Attitash Mountain Resort. I first off want to thank the community and the team here at the resort for welcoming me with open arms. It has been an amazing first 60 days in my role, and I have experienced firsthand the amazing level of dedication and passion that everyone has for this resort. I very much look forward to settling down and raising my family here in the Mount Washington Valley.

I also wanted to take the time to thank everyone who joined us on the slopes this season! It was great to see so many of you have a great time on the mountain – but I also recognize that we also saw our fair share of challenges this year. We have listened to your feedback, and we know that you’re all really here for amazing skiing and riding experience– which is why this summer, we’re going to focus our efforts on pre-emptively maintaining our mountain infrastructure to minimize any disruptions or impacts during the winter season. We will not be offering public attractions or activities this summer. Instead, we are going to focus on:

Supporting the construction of our new lift, the Progression Quad, returning access to our amazing beginner terrain.

Replacing the necessary electrical systems to bring the Kachina Triple back online next season.

Enable our maintenance teams to focus on a dive deep into all of our lifts to make repairs large and small to improve reliability moving forward.

Building a more consistent and out-front communication strategy including more regular videos this summer providing updates on the progress of our projects.

Re-evaluating and reimagining our snowmaking plans to ensure that we can provide an amazing experience for all experience levels as we ramp up our winter season.

Exploring new opportunities to hire the necessary staff by partnering with local seasonal businesses and schools while leveraging our newly announced minimum wage.

Continuing to build strong relationships and partnerships with our community stakeholders.

Thanks to everyone for your patience this summer. We can’t wait to see you next season! - Brandon
 

deadheadskier

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Almost none of their maintenance and construction projects use the same type of worker as summer attractions. Decades long legacy of summer family fun at Attitash that Vail just doesn't care about. I rode those waterslides in the 80s.

Such a shame
 

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Almost none of their maintenance and construction projects use the same type of worker as summer attractions. Decades long legacy of summer family fun at Attitash that Vail just doesn't care about. I rode those waterslides in the 80s.

Such a shame
I know. Vail crushed everything that WC had started over the last 6-7 years. AT's summer activities go back more than 40 years.
More Chamber businesses Pissed Off at Vail...

At least we still have Santa's Village and Storyland for the kids.
 

thebigo

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I know. Vail crushed everything that WC had started over the last 6-7 years. AT's summer activities go back more than 40 years.
More Chamber businesses Pissed Off at Vail...

At least we still have Santa's Village and Storyland for the kids.
Don't overlook cranmore. Took the kids last summer and had a good time. They were sold out several times we looked, got tickets on a rainy day and they were still busy.
 

jimmywilson69

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Vail appeara to have cut the summer attractions at Roundtop as well. I know it was profitable under Snowtime. They did bring the summer camps back which were HUGE money makers.

I will give the current Attitash GM some credit for being transparent with their plans and implementing a plan to fix their lifts. Sure this shouldn't even potentially be a thing, but it at least appears their trying to fix things. I'd still be pissed if I was a local until results are seen. He'll I always wanted to check out AttiCat but not until there is change
 

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Jay does? I missed that on my last visit, which we stayed at the Tram Haus so I assume it was built by then.

Tremblant has at least one, which was under the condo-ish complex I stayed at. Blackomb had many underneath the condos nearby. That was maybe 2005 that I visited; I'd never been to any ski area with a garage at that point.
The Jay one is pretty discreet. I have always thought paved lots and garages at ski areas were obnoxious but the jay one is well done, you don't even notice it except from the back, and it keeps them from having to develop more areas into parking.

I've not been to jay before the development but that whole tramside complex isn't super obnoxious in my opinion, I mean I like the original Tram haus style better but it's not like those mega 6 story Grand Summit Hotels


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Parking garages at ski areas are hideous. End of story. Only they could get approved with modern permitting is if the resort's pay an absurd amount of money to make them discreet (I believe it was Mt Snow that had this issue in trying to get one in permitted...50/50 shot that's accurate). I pass one at Snowbird everyday it sticks out like a sore thumb even with the backdrop of their goliath concrete structures in the village.
 

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The one at Stowe,Spruce peak condos is totaly buried..never know its there. Not something most people use except if you rent or live their. But i think anyone can pay to use it.
 

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I've brought this up before and it was not well received. I always thought, even pre-vail, that the Mansfield lot could be a double decker. the "ski slopes" are "one level" up from the current lot. If anyone could afford to make it "discrete" its Vail. You'd have to start it west of the Mansfield lodge, since its historic, but it could be done and would go a long way in solving their parking issues. Flame away AZ :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Bolton Valley and Jackson Gore at Okemo also have garages but I believe you have to be a condo owner or staying at hotel to use them
 
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