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VAIL SUCKS

njdiver85

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But it looks like the only runs open are for the park rats?
There are no features on Deer Run/Gulch). And Nitro/Fools Gold has plenty of room on skiers left and right if you don't want to do the features. Plus, the features may get nixed as they get closer to April 24th to spread the snow.
 

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But it looks like the only runs open are for the park rats?
Some of the runs have had their features plowed out and are open as non parks, and have been since they went Carinthia only a couple of weeks ago.

Snowreport doesn't reflect this reality at all though
 

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GPS tracker that I use gets just under 1k feet for the Nitro lift and has done that number for years now
I was thinking of Heavy Metal, either way not really worth it for me personally. Wish they let one of the runs bump up then it would be more enticing.
 

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I was thinking of Heavy Metal, either way not really worth it for me personally. Wish they let one of the runs bump up then it would be more enticing.
Heavy Metal is about 600 vertical.

And the reality is with what is open still, not really enough stuff with enough pitch to get some decent Spring bumps, especially once Inferno melted out a few days ago
 

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It just struck me the Vail portfolio in the northeast doesn't have any that can go into late season. Never mind fun in the spring.

While Alterra has Killington and Sunday River. Not to mention Sugarloaf.

This is the only FULL season I'm on the Vail sphere (pandemic year doesn't count). I'm suddenly see their limitations. That explains why I've never seriously consider Epic in the past. Not as the only pass anyway.
 

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It just struck me the Vail portfolio in the northeast doesn't have any that can go into late season. Never mind fun in the spring.

While Alterra has Killington and Sunday River. Not to mention Sugarloaf.

This is the only FULL season I'm on the Vail sphere (pandemic year doesn't count). I'm suddenly see their limitations. That explains why I've never seriously consider Epic in the past. Not as the only pass anyway.
With some focus and a decent snow year wildcat could and has gone pretty deep into may
 

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With some focus and a decent snow year wildcat could and has gone pretty deep into may
Exactly. And in reality Attitash could too, but never really has. It is steep enough for good spring bump skiing. I’ve skied Wildcat in May… all it takes is good management.
 

slatham

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It just struck me the Vail portfolio in the northeast doesn't have any that can go into late season. Never mind fun in the spring.

While Alterra has Killington and Sunday River. Not to mention Sugarloaf.

This is the only FULL season I'm on the Vail sphere (pandemic year doesn't count). I'm suddenly see their limitations. That explains why I've never seriously consider Epic in the past. Not as the only pass anyway.
Alterra also has Stratton going until Sunday and Sugarbush going to May 1.
 

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Big Boulder can be the last open south of ny... Vail didn't even try to make a go away it

Stratton is helped by its elevation
 

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With some focus and a decent snow year wildcat could and has gone pretty deep into may
That’s pre-Vail though...
I’ve skied Wildcat in May… all it takes is good management.
So had I in Wildcat. But Vail “management” has done wonders for Wildcat! By turning it into a nothing special mountain. :(
 

machski

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It just struck me the Vail portfolio in the northeast doesn't have any that can go into late season. Never mind fun in the spring.

While Alterra has Killington and Sunday River. Not to mention Sugarloaf.

This is the only FULL season I'm on the Vail sphere (pandemic year doesn't count). I'm suddenly see their limitations. That explains why I've never seriously consider Epic in the past. Not as the only pass anyway.
They have several they can go with late. Wildcat has shown it can and so can Stowe. It's all about the will and Vail doesn't have it apparently.
 

thebigo

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Big Boulder can be the last open south of ny... Vail didn't even try to make a go away it

Stratton is helped by its elevation
Elevation matters early season. Elevation has absolutely nothing to do with late season. Only factor late season is managerial competence.

Edit - for those who say there is no money to be made late season, I am sitting in a full Bunyan room with 100+ other like minded souls sipping $8 beer out of plastic cups on a day it was forecast to rain.
 
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2Planker

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Exactly. And in reality Attitash could too, but never really has. It is steep enough for good spring bump skiing. I’ve skied Wildcat in May… all it takes is good management.
I got married at the top of Wildcat on Friday May 1, 2015. Place was open and spring conditions were great !! I think they closed on Sun. May 3 that year
 

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I got married at the top of Wildcat on Friday May 1, 2015. Place was open and spring conditions were great !! I think they closed on Sun. May 3 that year
I came back after a tragic year in Tahoe and skied the hell out of wildcat. It was redemption and made my year!
 

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You picked the best year to get married there. Last year they made May previous was 07. In fact from 00 to 2010 they only made May in 07
 
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ss20

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Elevation matters early season. Elevation has absolutely nothing to do with late season. Only factor late season is managerial competence.

I'm gonna disagree with that. Higher elevation and colder temps absolutely make a difference late season. Maybe not in the daytime, but at night...sure thing. Every night you can get below 30 degrees is a win, and having the base of Superstar at 2,600 feet versus 2,000 feet for Steins at SB makes a big difference.
 
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