VAIL SUCKS

[djd66]

You're telling him you're not a very good skier!

KTK's definition of "good skier" is you'd better like what he likes because he's such a hot shot skier.

In my experience, it’s always the people that talk about being the best/ most hardcore skier that actually really suck at the sport.

 

[jaytrem]

I'm the best at breaking equipment. Will be using my wife's skis afternoon.

As for A-Basin vs WP. Too close to call, but I love bumps, so maybe WP.

 

[Vince]

Just skied 4 great sunny days at Breck. Stayed at the base of Peak 7 so not sure on paid parking. I'm pretty sure you reserve the best prime spots at ABasin and the rest is free. Breck has Peaks 6, 7 and 8 open. But you have to take the T Bar to get to Imperial Bowl as Ch6 is closed.
I've been coming to CO for many years late April and early May. I would say slightly better than average snow pack this year. Snowing here tonight.
Come on out skiing ain't done yet.

 

[eatskisleep]

NELSAP Snowjournal.com forum closed the Vail sucks thread. A new one popped up almost immediately. Thank you mods for not closing this one! It is good to have an open place to talk about the many pitfalls of vail!

 

[deadheadskier]

Why did they close it?

This Vail Sucks thread is eternal. It is time itself

 

[eatskisleep]

Probably doesn’t help that their mod works for Vail…

 

[Kingslug20]

Aha......

 

[drjeff]

Why did they close it?

This Vail Sucks thread is eternal. It is time itself

The cited reason was the repetitive nature of a large number of posts with little to no new, relevant content for the thread as a whole.

Then it was pointed out, that in essence some trip reports, especially to certain smaller, out of the way places, often have very little relevance to the majority of folks.

On the flipside, currently through security in a crowded Tampa Airport. I'd put the percentage of folks choosing to wear a mask in the 10-15% range.

Masks suck!

 

[eatskisleep]

The cited reason was the repetitive nature of a large number of posts with little to no new, relevant content for the thread as a whole.

Then it was pointed out, that in essence some trip reports, especially to certain smaller, out of the way places, often have very little relevance to the majority of folks.

On the flipside, currently through security in a crowded Tampa Airport. I'd put the percentage of folks choosing to wear a mask in the 10-15% range.

Masks suck!

Masks suck and so does vail!!

 

[abc]

Masks suck and so does vail!!

Mask works!

Skiing at Vail resort in April had been very good!

Such is life.

 

[Teleskier]

On the flipside, currently through security in a crowded Tampa Airport. I'd put the percentage of folks choosing to wear a mask in the 10-15% range.

Masks suck!

You've been vocally and virulently anti-mask and “F* thinking anyone else besides exclusively myself” from the very start. You’ve been the poster boy for that selfish mindset in this forum here. Wearing a mask to protect others, especially the elderly, chemo patients, AIDS survivors (and a host of others I’m forgetting) in society is simply not in your thinking or vocabulary, and that has been particularly jarring to me given the ‘dr’ in your screen-name. So no surprise there.

Florida having less mask usage? No surprise there.

However you’re still going on and on about masks. Give it a break already. I finally had to comment after two years of this conceited sh*t.

Meanwhile on Boston-NYC flights, mask usage is still 80%-90% per recent news reports. They do this despite the repeal of mask mandates, NOT because it is mandatory, but because it is simply “looking out for your neighbor.”

A Tale of Two Cities…

 

[ThatGuy]

They have lifted the federal mask requirement on flights

Do you have to wear a mask on your next flight? These airlines are dropping mask mandates

Though customers are free to continue wearing masks if they choose, passengers will not be required to mask up on many carriers for the first time in years.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[thetrailboss]

Masks suck and so does vail!!

Vail sucks more.

 

[deadheadskier]

The cited reason was the repetitive nature of a large number of posts with little to no new, relevant content for the thread as a whole.

Then it was pointed out, that in essence some trip reports, especially to certain smaller, out of the way places, often have very little relevance to the majority of folks.

On the flipside, currently through security in a crowded Tampa Airport. I'd put the percentage of folks choosing to wear a mask in the 10-15% range.

Masks suck!

Similar observation this week. I was in Logan and Newark Thursday/Friday. Now down in Florida having flown into Ft Myers. It was like 30% in Logan on Thursday. Then by this morning maybe 15% as you said. Guessing folks on Thursday just hadn't heard the mandate was lifted

 

[deadheadskier]

You've been vocally and virulently anti-mask and “F* thinking anyone else besides exclusively myself” from the very start. You’ve been the poster boy for that selfish mindset in this forum here. Wearing a mask to protect others, especially the elderly, chemo patients, AIDS survivors (and a host of others I’m forgetting) in society is simply not in your thinking or vocabulary, and that has been particularly jarring to me given the ‘dr’ in your screen-name. So no surprise there.

Florida having less mask usage? No surprise there.

However you’re still going on and on about masks. Give it a break already. I finally had to comment after two years of this conceited sh*t.

Meanwhile on Boston-NYC flights, mask usage is still 80%-90% per recent news reports. They do this despite the repeal of mask mandates, NOT because it is mandatory, but because it is simply “looking out for your neighbor.”

A Tale of Two Cities…

When did you fly last? I was in Logan and Newark Thursday and Friday. Back at Logan today. I'd say maybe 30% mask wearing on Thursday. Half that today.

And I'll say this. The mask mandate in airports and on planes had been a joke for the past six months. Half the length of flights people were unmasked to eat and drink. Does Covid not spread while you eat or something?

I was 100% behind the mandates while things were going ham and hospitals were jammed. Now that people have had ample time to get vaccines that have proven highly effective at preventing serious illness or death, it's simply time to move on. I'm sensitive to those people at risk, but it's time to move on.

Okay, I have said my piece.

Vail sucks

 

[gittist]

Wearing a mask to protect others, especially the elderly, chemo patients, AIDS survivors (and a host of others I’m forgetting) in society is simply not in your thinking or vocabulary, and that has been particularly jarring to me given the ‘dr’ in your screen-name. So no surprise there.

Both my wife and I are in a couple of the groups of people that you mentioned and we're both glad the mask mandate has been lifted! Other than some outdated laws from the wild west there are no rules that a person can't wear a mask so if you want to wear a mask, or two, go right ahead.

We're flying to Florida tomorrow. Will we wear out masks? Probably not in the airport but will more than likely wear them on the airplane. It's our choice and our responsibility to protect ourselves; not anyone else's with the following exception.

Sick people should wear masks and do fall under 42 U.S. Code Part G - Quarantine and Inspection. Sick people and animals are quarantined, not healthy people or those who have not been diagnosed as sick. That's the part (section 264) of the code that CDC used as authority for the mask mandate. They turned the statute on it's head to do what they wanted. Good intentions? Probably. Legal? I don't (and didn't) think so. Why have laws if no one follows them? Might as well elect Putin in 2024.

 

[Teleskier]

I haven’t been to Logan yet. Voluntary mask usage at the airport after the mandate repeal was a widely reported local story.

(Note I’m not commenting on whether the current relaxation of mask mandates makes sense to me or not. I’m still weighing everything, like everyone else).

“Masks Suck.” No, masks saved lives.

It’s the attitude about masks from day one on the part of the vocal few that irked me. It’s always been all about them from day one, never about others, or their neighbors literally sitting right next to them. Personally I never found wearing a mask for my neighbor’s health to be that much of an inconvenience for me.

The fact they’re still going on about masks, even now when everyone is collectively declaring that ‘COVID is over’ - and no one is making anyone wear masks - irks me. As if they are constantly incessantly driven to make something that is strictly medical into something political. From Day One.

Especially from someone from the medical field that should supposedly be used to thinking about and caring about the immuno-compromised, that perhaps many others in the general public don’t normally think about or see.

You won ‘doctor’. No one is making you wear a mask. Yet you’re still going on about it! Drop it already. I listened to it for two years, please stop trying to turn it into three.

Meanwhile back to skiing…

 

[deadheadskier]

I definitely agree that masks help, especially N95s. But there was too many illogical aspects to the mandates. Like allowing people to eat or drink and not wear them during those times on public transportation. Or the nonsense about wearing a mask as you enter a restaurant, but the second you get to a table or bar you could take them off. That's very different than the healthcare facilities I work in where masking is 100% all the time in patient care areas.

Those news stories you have seen were definitely making those figures up. Maybe it was that high the first day of repeal, but definitely not today. Honestly I think the percentage was probably high the first day or two because people simply didn't know they no longer had to wear them. I noticed a big difference even between Thursday and today at Logan. I suspect when I return home to New England on Wednesday, those numbers will be even lower

 

[drjeff]

Probably a similar 10-15% of folks wearing mask in the Providence airport when we got off our plane there.

And frankly, with both the type of masks/face coverings that the majority of folks wore during the mandates of the pandemic, and how they often wore them (down below their nose, etc) they did little to protect folks from COVID. It's not like everyone was wearing a properly fit checked N95 all the time, which would of helped slow the spread. And as we are seeing clearly now, it's not like getting vaccinated prevented the spread (as some of our public health officials told us they would initially), but fortunately lessened the severity of symptoms, especially for the most vulnerable, when they contracted it.

Just take an honest look at the data, and not the often ideological driven hyperbole that the media of all sides puts out there.

And it was nice to spend 3hrs on a plane without a mask on today. Just like it was nice to be on the ski hill this winter without a mask on.

And if those miffed by the judges ruling this week eliminating the mask mandate for planes/trains/etc, notice how the criticism by some is about the judge herself, and NOT the substance of her 50+ page ruling.

Feel free to wear a mask if one so chooses. Doesn't bother me at all. Just let those who choose not to wear a mask do so without issue as well. Since if one feels strongly that their mask protects themselves, then the presence or absence of a mask on those around you shouldn't make any difference to your person health afterall.

 

[snoseek]

At one point I thought it made sense to wear a mask forever on flights not for covid but any kind of illness, part of me knows this is true. Then I actually spent some time on a long flight with a mask and will say fuck that.

I'm triple dosed and boosted so this shit is over for me. Try working in a kitchen for a 12 hour shift in the heat while customers flow in, sit, yell at the servers who then come back to the pass and pick up....I'm still pisssed off about that bullshit while everyone was told to stay home, work from there ect....