VAIL SUCKS

[FBGM]

Sure, go ahead and enjoy yourself while you can. I hope I'm wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if the entire country goes into lock down after Jan 20.

Jesus fucking Christ here we go. I poked the hornets nest with one snarky off colored half a political comment.

I’ll go out my tinfoil hat on and stay away for a few days

 

[thebigo]

After an incredibly divisive year we finally found one issue that unites us all, do we really need to poison our mutual hatred of vail with politics?

 

[da-bum]

Blow some snow in Hunter North, how many times can one do Overlook if one wants to stay away from the crowd of the main mountain.

 

[kingslug]

West side even better..really spread them out.
At Gore they are doing it right..almost all lifts running..no lines up top..

 

[MogulMonsters]

According to one of the Attitash Twitter feeds we may be seeing the Yankee this weekend!!!

“Our snowmaking team is taking every opportunity to put the finishing touches on Upper/Lower Saco, Upper/Lower Cathedral, and Ammonoosuc. If Mother Nature plays fair we plan to add those trails and the Flying Yankee for the weekend.”

 

[njdiver85]

One thing is certain: Vail is stepping up the marketing maybe to appeal to all the complaints about lack of snowmaking?

 

[abc]

One thing is certain: Vail is stepping up the marketing maybe to appeal to all the complaints about lack of snowmaking?

Funny, I thought I read "Vail is stepping up the snowmaking...".

Then I double back and read... "stepping up the marketing"!

 

[thebigo]

According to one of the Attitash Twitter feeds we may be seeing the Yankee this weekend!!!

“Our snowmaking team is taking every opportunity to put the finishing touches on Upper/Lower Saco, Upper/Lower Cathedral, and Ammonoosuc. If Mother Nature plays fair we plan to add those trails and the Flying Yankee for the weekend.”

Overheard yankee may run tomorrow, also with the yankee online, there are no backup scanners. They were blowing on cathedral today, going to be some death cookies tomorrow if they do push it out tonight, will help ski them out over lunch tomorrow. Also blowing on cubs cut and bearfoot, production on bearfoot looked minimal but temps were marginal. I would have to think the Kachina trails are next on that side, imagine owning a seven figure slopeside house that is ski in/ski out < 2 months / year.

 

[thebigo]

One thing is certain: Vail is stepping up the marketing maybe to appeal to all the complaints about lack of snowmaking?

Where and what are they marketing?

 

[Mainer]

Latest opening of Yankee since it was installed. Haven’t opened a new trail in two weeks If

 

[drjeff]

Funny, I thought I read "Vail is stepping up the snowmaking...".

Then I double back and read... "stepping up the marketing"!

Not sure if the seeming snowmaking ramp up is due to temps, the social media shellacking they're taking, or the next big Holiday Weekend, MLK Weekend, in 8 days...

Maybe a little bit of all 3

 

[chuckstah]

Crotched was blowing snow all day today: CM park, UFO, Equinox and finally Milky Way. Blastoff was hit overnight but not ready. Should be getting much closer to 100 percent soon once done with these, and at least the upper pond looks full. Hopefully with Milky Way the entire layout will finally be skied from the Rocket. WAY late for that.

 

[deadheadskier]

Guns were running everywhere today at the cat: summit, upper polecat, cat track, middle wildcat and bobcat. I don't recollect them ever blowing top to bottom at once in the past. Assuming they keep this up and push the large whales out, snowmaking terrain should be close to 100% by mlk weekend. I would guess they move from upper polecat to upper catapult tomorrow. Not sure i can fully explain it but today felt different, more like years past - albeit a month late.

Going to grab some lunch runs tomorrow at bear, hoping to see guns blasting and whales getting pushed out. Some movement at the yankee, getting ready for the weekend, would also be good.

Depends on what you consider 100% of snowmaking terrain is

All of Catapult,
Middle Wildcat, Alley Cat, Bobcat, Cheetah and Wild Kitten by MLK?

Overheard yankee may run tomorrow, also with the yankee online, there are no backup scanners. They were blowing on cathedral today, going to be some death cookies tomorrow if they do push it out tonight, will help ski them out over lunch tomorrow. Also blowing on cubs cut and bearfoot, production on bearfoot looked minimal but temps were marginal. I would have to think the Kachina trails are next on that side, imagine owning a seven figure slopeside house that is ski in/ski out < 2 months / year.

Not just for those seven figure homes, but they need Abanaki Chair with the insane lift lines they have on weekends. Both Yankee and Abanaki need to be open for me to consider going there on a weekend.

 

[BenedictGomez]

After an incredibly divisive year we finally found one issue that unites us all, do we really need to poison our mutual hatred of vail with politics?

Hating Vail really is the one thing that brings us all together.

 

[Edd]

I bet this thread contains more Attitash posts than the entirety of all other threads on AZ.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Does anyone who used to work in mountain ops have any idea how much money Vail's likely saving at XYZ resort by drastically cutting back on snowmaking to date?

 

[thetrailboss]

Does anyone who used to work in mountain ops have any idea how much money Vail's likely saving at XYZ resort by drastically cutting back on snowmaking to date?

Ten years ago (!) I got inside info from a reliable source that SB easily spent $1,000 per hour in equipment, labor, utilities for snowmaking operations. So add to that and it gives you an idea that it is a significant amount of money. That said, the WHOLE point of Epic was to bankroll enough $$$ to pay for these operations.

 

[thebigo]

Depends on what you consider 100% of snowmaking terrain is

All of Catapult,
Middle Wildcat, Alley Cat, Bobcat, Cheetah and Wild Kitten by MLK?


Not just for those seven figure homes, but they need Abanaki Chair with the insane lift lines they have on weekends. Both Yankee and Abanaki need to be open for me to consider going there on a weekend.

Fair point. I believe they have been blowing on bobcat since Tuesday and middle wildcat since Wednesday. Upper catapult has to be the top priority once polecat is done, then wild kitten. Temps look decent through next week but I would guess lower catapult and alley are a stretch for the holiday weekend. Forgot about middle catapult, cannot even picture the pipes, they must be on the skiers right?

I am guessing the attitash crowds will dissipate as wildcat begins to offer more than one trail and beginner terrain. Wildcat was deserted over the holiday week.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Ten years ago (!) I got inside info from a reliable source that SB easily spent $1,000 per hour in equipment, labor, utilities for snowmaking operations. So add to that and it gives you an idea that it is a significant amount of money. That said, the WHOLE point of Epic was to bankroll enough $$$ to pay for these operations.

You'd think the $500 BILLION they just got in convertible notes for, "general corporate purposes" could cover some snowmaking. I guess making snow isnt, "general" enough. lol

 

[deadheadskier]

Yes skiers right for Middle Catapult pipes. They don't blow a ton on it, but do a little bit most years. I think a fair amount of snow that gets made on Middle Wildcat ends up blowing over to it and Middle Wildcat sees more snowmaking than most trails on the mountain because that stretch can get fairly skied off, so it requires a resurface from time to time.