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VAIL SUCKS

deadheadskier

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This is a picture taken from the paid parking lot at Canyons this weekend at about 4:25pm, looking out at the entire parking lot. It is completely empty. I was in the 4th "row" if you can call it that, and there were perhaps a total of 15 to 20 vehicles in the lot behind me.

Meanwhile, at this same time the "free" parking lot down by the Cabriolet Gondola was packed with literally hundreds of vehicles. Canyons Village? Filled with cars and SUVs circling around (because they're not paying to park) causing congestion, lines, waits, looking to pick people up by Sundial, Edge Steakhouse, or wherever else you can jam a vehicle in & throw on the hazard lights for a few minutes.

This is precisely the opposite of what Vail claims "paid parking" is supposed to do.

I wish I was there a few hours earlier to take a picture of how many vehicles were in this lot at peak middle of the day, like 1:30pm or so, but from what I see here I doubt it was dramatically different. EVERYONE is parking in the Cab lot for free instead. By 10am on a Saturday Vail sends out the text message that the free lot is "full", but you can either pay for parking or bus in. This is the opposite of efficient, and frankly, if this is typical it makes me wonder how much money Vail's making on parking anyway versus the inconvenience it's causing people. For example, since virtually everyone is parking down by the highway in the free lot, I noticed it's causing lines to get on the Cab gondola late in the day to get back to your parking lot. Very much an unnecessary, unintended consequence.

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ItS nOt AbouT MOneY, ItS tO iNcreaSe eFFIcienCY aNd ReDUce CONgestioN!

I'm at Mt Snow today for a ski racing camp. They're still charging $15 for the close lot.....after a rain storm. It's near empty at 9:20 still. The free C lot isn't that much further walk.....but good on Vail for still driving that carpooling message no matter the weather or demand!!
 

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Skied Crotched today, not bad. Pluto's opened after lunch, Cat moved over to push out Jupiter's. That will leave just Blast Off Chute, UFO and Comet Drop non "glade" trails to go. None have seen snowmaking as yet.
 

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I am going out to keystone next Week, Sunday through Thursday. It looks like the I70 area is going to get pounded over the weekend. Question to you guys, Keystone being so close to Denver how bad are the crowds going to be Monday(hell) but what about Tuesday thru Thursday?
Your problems may have nothing to do with crowds. There is an artic front about to push through Colorado and the winds on the back side are supposed to be upwards of 70 mph up on the peaks. Good snow is supposed to accompany it as well but it could be rough for a couple of days.
 

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Skied Crotched today, not bad. Pluto's opened after lunch, Cat moved over to push out Jupiter's. That will leave just Blast Off Chute, UFO and Comet Drop non "glade" trails to go. None have seen snowmaking as yet.
Jupiter's opened around 4 PM today. In addition to machski's list, Equinox and a few short connectors remain. I'd suggest they have about 85% of their acreage open. Did we ride the lift together?
 

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Jupiter's opened around 4 PM today. In addition to machski's list, Equinox and a few short connectors remain. I'd suggest they have about 85% of their acreage open. Did we ride the lift together?
Nope, I rode the chairs solo all day. Figured Jupiter would open later but I couldn't hang out for that. They can keep the connectors closed for all I care, makes it safer IMHO to keep runs TTB isolated from incuts.
 

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Business Hall of Fame inductees are announced​


Rob Katz, who became executive chairman of Vail Resorts board of directors after serving as the company’s CEO from 2006-2021. During his tenure, Vail Resorts launched the game-changing Epic Pass program and increased its network from five ski resorts to 41. With his wife, Elana Amsterdam, he founded the Katz Amsterdam Foundation that supports nonprofit organizations in mountain communities that address mental and behavioral challenges.


Have fun with this one also!
 

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Time will tell, looks pretty good now, if Covid did not tear them apart what will? his job steering them through Covid and building up 1:2 billion in cash was impressive,
 

thetrailboss

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Congrats Mr. Katz, well deserved!
"Awwwww. Thanks guys. I have only me to thank!"

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kingslug

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Bit of a shitshow at Canyons..lift closures all over the place..no food at cloud nine...
On mlk weekend powder day.....
Rob...your thoughts?
 

BenedictGomez

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Bit of a shitshow at Canyons..lift closures all over the place..no food at cloud nine...
On mlk weekend powder day.....Rob...your thoughts?

Why all the lift closures, and I guess what's displayed as current on th e website is BS? Wind doesnt appear that bad.

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The food part's definitely not explainable though, especially not on a holiday Saturday.
 

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Why all the lift closures, and I guess what's displayed as current on th e website is BS? Wind doesnt appear that bad.

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The food part's definitely not explainable though, especially not on a holiday Saturday.
I can explain the food thing...

All the halfway decent fb managers are too busy fucking up east coast mountains
 
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