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VAIL SUCKS

deadheadskier

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Wildcat closing for the season on 4/6 due to not enough snow to continue. However the good news is Vail's friendly and welcoming staff will be there to greet you for a bonus weekend at Attitash 4-12/13. (Subject to whether management still feels like doing it next week)
 

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Wildcat closing for the season on 4/6 due to not enough snow to continue. However the good news is Vail's friendly and welcoming staff will be there to greet you for a bonus weekend at Attitash 4-12/13. (Subject to whether management still feels like doing it next week)
"Awwww, thanks Deady Heady. I knew that you would be the first one to comment about our special initiative for those poor Wildcat skiers and riders. Boy their management and ownership are going to be pissed when their skiers and riders see just how EPIC Attitash is in comparison to Wildcat!"

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I was really hoping they would turn things around at wildcat this season but man I feel like they somehow managed to mess this place up worse. April 6th is gotta be rock bottom. Did they ever even get the beginner chair going?

They really should unload the mtn to someone who cares. I would pay a good chunk of change to ski wildcat run properly as a standalone area and I don't think I'm alone.

Edit no lynx? How often was lynx open t2b this season?
 

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Each year Little by Little Wildcat just keeps getting worse....

Hard to think that it could be much worse, BUT I'm sure Vail w/ come up w/ something to drive even more people away
 

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Like Hampton Beach, Wildcat is a place that seemed awesome when you were younger but as you get older realize was more of a pile of shit than you realized.

This board, for whatever reason, acts like Wildcat was a premier ski area on the East Coast, when the reality was even 30 years ago it had a crap snowmaking system and rusted out gondola cabins they would charge an arm and leg for foliage tours on and not much else. It has always been more of a Magic or Burke than Stowe or Okemo, but it seemed big when you were younger and didn't know any better. Every single one of Wildcat's problems predates Vail and even Peak before that, but the difference Vail isn't willing to lose a couple hundred grand a year to appease like six old fucks on AZ.
 

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Like Hampton Beach, Wildcat is a place that seemed awesome when you were younger but as you get older realize was more of a pile of shit than you realized.

This board, for whatever reason, acts like Wildcat was a premier ski area on the East Coast, when the reality was even 30 years ago it had a crap snowmaking system and rusted out gondola cabins they would charge an arm and leg for foliage tours on and not much else. It has always been more of a Magic or Burke than Stowe or Okemo, but it seemed big when you were younger and didn't know any better. Every single one of Wildcat's problems predates Vail and even Peak before that, but the difference Vail isn't willing to lose a couple hundred grand a year to appease like six old fucks on AZ.
Yeah you're wrong it's not the same because they don't blow snow worth a fuck.
 

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Like Hampton Beach, Wildcat is a place that seemed awesome when you were younger but as you get older realize was more of a pile of shit than you realized.

This board, for whatever reason, acts like Wildcat was a premier ski area on the East Coast, when the reality was even 30 years ago it had a crap snowmaking system and rusted out gondola cabins they would charge an arm and leg for foliage tours on and not much else. It has always been more of a Magic or Burke than Stowe or Okemo, but it seemed big when you were younger and didn't know any better. Every single one of Wildcat's problems predates Vail and even Peak before that, but the difference Vail isn't willing to lose a couple hundred grand a year to appease like six old fucks on AZ.

No one here has ever insinuated that Wildcat is more like a Stowe than a Magic. Sweet hyperbole

They also made vastly more snow under Peak, ran a month longer season and did turn a profit.

Care to try again with facts vs just your own uneducated guesses?
 
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Yeah no, you are looking back at history with rose colored glasses.

10 years ago the entire system was broken and they blew zero snow as just one example. That wasn't a Vail problem, and predated Peak ultimately (in terms of why that shit the bed). There was a reason Peak picked up Wildcat for like a couple mill, and it was because it was a dumpster fire in terms of infrastructure, has basically zero ability to expand or develop, and was treated accordingly by prior owners in terms of investment. Now, in an age of social media, you can't cover that shit up with billboards and bogos at gas stations to drive the average AZer's twice a year visits.

Every single one of you has acted like Wildcat was a major player and has regressed, when outside of pissing away money staying open for like six people till the end of April, not much has changed. The reality Wildcat is a middle of the road ski area and Vail is the owner that is treating it as such. It makes zero sense, from a business standpoint, to run it otherwise. I get you wish that wasn't the case, but it sure is easy to spend other people's money.

For reference, Wildcat did about just over 100k skier visits annually, and for the better part of a decade under Peak, averaged closer to 70k. 100k visits doesn't pay the bills, let alone 70k for a mountain that size with the snowmaking budget you demand.
 
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Yeah no, you are looking back at history with rose colored glasses.

10 years ago the entire system was broken and they blew zero snow as just one example. That wasn't a Vail problem, and predated Peak ultimately (in terms of why that shit the bed). There was a reason Peak picked up Wildcat for like a couple mill, and it was because it was a dumpster fire in terms of infrastructure, has basically zero ability to expand or develop, and was treated accordingly by prior owners.

Every single one of you has acted like Wildcat was a major player and has regressed, when outside of pissing away money staying open for like six people till the end of April, not much has changed. The reality Wildcat is a middle of the road ski area and Vail is the owner that is treating it as such. It makes zero sense, from a business standpoint, to run it otherwise. I get you wish that wasn't the case, but it sure is easy to spend other people's money.

You're so full of shit and probably haven't skied there in 25 years, yet you think you have all of the answers . Some of us skied there hundreds of times in recent years and know people connected to the business vs. just being a moronic, blowhard keyboard expert like yourself.

What I said was true. They ran a month longer, made vastly more snow (especially after the system failure and $2M investment in the system) and they were profitable doing it. Those are facts, not opinions.

Come back when you have the facts straight and want to have an intelligent conversation on the matter instead of just acting like your typical, contrarian, trolling dickhead self you are so proud of.

Until then..... next.....
 

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Its called consulting dipshit, and consultants work for more than just one company over time usually. Thats as far as I'm going to go.

We get it, you demand unrealistic needs be met to earn your dollars. Thats why Vail doesn't give a shit about you. You can continue to be pissed off about it or be realistic, but something tells me you won't
 
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