VAIL SUCKS

[eatskisleep]

MTN stock is up to $338 after hours. Insane.

 

[machski]

They did blew quantum leap which is definitely hit or miss with snowmaking
Overall I think they hit as many trails as normal with maybe a little less depth

It seems the last few seasons they have made a better effort again to hit every Snowmaking trail. I seem to think Quantum has been hit the last two years as well, but yes previously it got passed over.

 

[faceplant]

MTN stock is up to $338 after hours. Insane.

whats the difference between a pizza and vail instructors ...

 

[FBGM]

Vail to the moon. Oh wait....

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Vail to the moon. Oh wait....

gme is at $290

 

[FBGM]

gme is at $290

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Kids living in their moms basements that invest all $2000 of their life savings still saying HOLD!

 

[KustyTheKlown]

i'm in at $60. i'm chillen.

 

[2Planker]

i'm in at $60. i'm chillen.

In at 35 in 2009

 

[KustyTheKlown]

In at 35 in 2009

just to be clear, i'm talkin about gamestop, not vail. i dont care if vail is a great stock, i dont support the company

if you are in gme at 35, mazel to you

 

[KustyTheKlown]

pretty big article about vail resorts and the covid season

this jumped out at me as potentially nefarious -
"Another person I talked to, whose job at Vail Resorts involves data collection, told me there’s a lot of good that can come from the reservations system, and it’s unlikely Vail will stop using it in the years to come.

This person did not want to be interviewed about it, though. He’s excited about his prospects in this emerging area of the company — the massive new stream of data Vail Resorts now receives based on the reservations system.

In years past, on any given day, Vail may not have been able to predict what services that day’s guests will require, from sandwiches to ski patrol. But now the company knows who is going to be arriving when, and what services they will likely use once they’re here. In addition to the reservations information, Vail Resorts also gleans insights from guests using the company’s new 20% pass holder discount on other Vail Resorts-owned offerings like food, lodging, transportation and equipment rentals."

having that kind of granular individual level data makes me think an evil company like vail could stack the decks on ease of making reservations, algorithmically giving preference to big spending gapers who love $40 lunches and $500 lessons every time they show up.

 

[gittist]

pretty big article about vail resorts and the covid season

this jumped out at me as potentially nefarious -
"Another person I talked to, whose job at Vail Resorts involves data collection, told me there’s a lot of good that can come from the reservations system, and it’s unlikely Vail will stop using it in the years to come.

This person did not want to be interviewed about it, though. He’s excited about his prospects in this emerging area of the company — the massive new stream of data Vail Resorts now receives based on the reservations system.

In years past, on any given day, Vail may not have been able to predict what services that day’s guests will require, from sandwiches to ski patrol. But now the company knows who is going to be arriving when, and what services they will likely use once they’re here. In addition to the reservations information, Vail Resorts also gleans insights from guests using the company’s new 20% pass holder discount on other Vail Resorts-owned offerings like food, lodging, transportation and equipment rentals."

having that kind of granular individual level data makes me think an evil company like vail could stack the decks on ease of making reservations, algorithmically giving preference to big spending gapers who love $40 lunches and $500 lessons every time they show up.

Oh, like the casinos?

 

[abc]

having that kind of granular individual level data makes me think an evil company like vail could stack the decks on ease of making reservations, algorithmically giving preference to big spending gapers who love $40 lunches and $500 lessons every time they show up.

That's big tech for you!

Who cares about big brother watching you when you have Facebook/Google/VAIL

 

[icecoast1]

pretty big article about vail resorts and the covid season

this jumped out at me as potentially nefarious -
"Another person I talked to, whose job at Vail Resorts involves data collection, told me there’s a lot of good that can come from the reservations system, and it’s unlikely Vail will stop using it in the years to come.

This person did not want to be interviewed about it, though. He’s excited about his prospects in this emerging area of the company — the massive new stream of data Vail Resorts now receives based on the reservations system.

In years past, on any given day, Vail may not have been able to predict what services that day’s guests will require, from sandwiches to ski patrol. But now the company knows who is going to be arriving when, and what services they will likely use once they’re here. In addition to the reservations information, Vail Resorts also gleans insights from guests using the company’s new 20% pass holder discount on other Vail Resorts-owned offerings like food, lodging, transportation and equipment rentals."

having that kind of granular individual level data makes me think an evil company like vail could stack the decks on ease of making reservations, algorithmically giving preference to big spending gapers who love $40 lunches and $500 lessons every time they show up.

Oh yay. That really makes me want to buy an epic pass. I somehow cant see them limiting the amount of people on the mountain though. It just doesnt fit their business model of cramming as many people on the hill as possible, experience be damned

 

[ThatGuy]

I somehow cant see them limiting the amount of people on the mountain though. It just doesnt fit their business model of cramming as many people on the hill as possible, experience be damned

They don’t limit the amount of people. They limit the amount of passholders that can make a reservation. Then with the data alluded to in the article and other information like which days more people buy window tickets Epic can create the most lucrative conditions for themselves.

 

[PAabe]

Hard to see Epic pass remaining as competitive if you have to reserve dates while not the case on other passes

Most of the times I day trip I am not certain I am going until the night before

For example Elk and Montage doing better than ever this year because no reservation required

Maybe the resorts keep it but I can't see that being a good strategy at all at local hills

 

[eatskisleep]

Hard to see Epic pass remaining as competitive if you have to reserve dates while not the case on other passes

Most of the times I day trip I am not certain I am going until the night before

For example Elk and Montage doing better than ever this year because no reservation required

Maybe the resorts keep it but I can't see that being a good strategy at all at local hill

Agreed. I don't see sales being as high for Epic this coming season (but let's see what their "game changer" announcement is first)... I know a lot of people that were pretty pissed off with them this season. I too am a person that decides to go skiing "last-minute." Reservations don't work for me.

 

[jimmywilson69]

They've publicly said they don't want to do reservations after COVID. That being said Katz isn't really worried about anything but money. They are going to piss a lot of people off and there is no spin machine that can save them from the backlash of continuing reservations.

What a shit show... I literally have no choice for local skiing. Sure I could drive 2 hours to Blue or 7 Springs but that's just ridiculous when there is Vail owned skiing 4 miles away...

I recognize to many on this forum that might seem odd but I'm really not interested in my ski day involving a 4 hour roundtrip. I like driving 5 minutes to ski every day and in a normal year taking several trips up north and out west.

 

[deadheadskier]

They've publicly said they don't want to do reservations after COVID. That being said Katz isn't really worried about anything but money. They are going to piss a lot of people off and there is no spin machine that can save them from the backlash of continuing reservations.

What a shit show... I literally have no choice for local skiing. Sure I could drive 2 hours to Blue or 7 Springs but that's just ridiculous when there is Vail owned skiing 4 miles away...

I recognize to many on this forum that might seem odd but I'm really not interested in my ski day involving a 4 hour roundtrip. I like driving 5 minutes to ski every day and in a normal year taking several trips up north and out west.

Doesn't seem odd to me. Even if Sugarbush was two hours away and I had a hill like Round Top 5 minutes away, I'd have a pass there and ski there frequently. I live 2:15 from Wildcat and I still ski Crotched or Sunapee more often because they're 1:15-1:20 away. I also drive a ton for work though, so my tolerance for long drives on the weekends is less than if I was just a normal commuter.

 

[abc]

I live 2:15 from Wildcat and I still ski Crotched or Sunapee more often because they're 1:15-1:20 away.

Aren't you agreeing with him that you driving less?

 

[jimmywilson69]

yes he is saying it doesn't seem odd to him that I don't want to drive 2 hours to ski.