Vermont Skier Visits Down Significantly Due to COVID-19

[BenedictGomez]

The subway is disgusting.

There are things I've seen on the New York subway that I will carry with me for life. That which cannot be forgotten.

 

[deadheadskier]

^ DHS drinking and posting at night (again).

Just calling it like I see it BG. I've seen you throw out asshole stereotypes of all kinds over the years here. From bashing the appearance of VT women to now people still wearing a mask, to everything in between. Really lame and almost always uncalled for.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Just calling it like I see it BG. I've seen you throw out asshole stereotypes of all kinds over the years here.

And what pray tell "stereotype" could this possibly fall under? For sheer comedy, dont dodge this question like you normally would.

People riding a bike alone, hiking alone, or walking completely alone in the great outdoors while wearing a mask like that poster noted, are either really scared, uneducated about covid science, or self-righteous performance artists.

You are the nastiest person on the internet & wholly lacking in self-awareness. God only knows how much money you've cost Greg over the years from all the people whose last post here states that you are literally the reason they're leaving Alpinezone (not that I've much sympathy given he's absent & has no clue what's going on here).

And yeah, you were drunk once again given your angry, vitriolic, nasty reply had absolutely nothing to do with the post I was replying to. I think you are on the right path though given you spend most of your job driving a car all over - the fewer people who deal with you during the day the better.

 

[deadheadskier]

And what pray tell "stereotype" could this possibly fall under? For sheer comedy, dont dodge this question like you normally would.

People riding a bike alone, hiking alone, or walking completely alone in the great outdoors while wearing a mask like that poster noted, are either really scared, uneducated about covid science, or self-righteous performance artists.

You are the nastiest person on the internet & wholly lacking in self-awareness. God only knows how much money you've cost Greg over the years from all the people whose last post here states that you are literally the reason they're leaving Alpinezone (not that I've much sympathy given he's absent & has no clue what's going on here).

And yeah, you were drunk once again given your angry, vitriolic, nasty reply had absolutely nothing to do with the post I was replying to. I think you are on the right path though given you spend most of your job driving a car all over - the fewer people who deal with you during the day the better.

Ok cupcake

A. Greg hasn't owned this website in almost a decade

B. Link me up one poster who "left the boards forever because of that meany deadheadskier"? . Maybe you should? Don't think much of your constant braggadocios commentary would be missed.

Thanks for your concern about my ability to successfully navigate business relationships, but I'm doing just fine over here. I just don't pull punches in online discourse with losers like you who artificially inflate who they are. You're like the Donald Trump of internet characters.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Ok cupcake

A. Greg hasn't owned this website in almost a decade

B. Link me up one poster who "left the boards forever because of that meany deadheadskier"? . Maybe you should? Don't think much of your constant braggadocios commentary would be missed.

Thanks for your concern about my ability to successfully navigate business relationships, but I'm doing just fine over here. I just don't pull punches in online discourse with losers like you who artificially inflate who they are. You're like the Donald Trump of internet characters.

Precisely as I predicted in #523.

DHS flips over the checkers board & runs away like a little boy, but not before adding more ugliness, nastiness & vitriol.

All too predictable.

 

[deadheadskier]

Precisely as I predicted.

DHS flips over the checkers board & runs away like a little boy, but not before adding more ugliness, nastiness & vitriol.

All too predictable.

Didn't want to let you down pumpkin! Lord knows you thrive on patting that back of yours. You're welcome

 

[ss20]

You're both interesting fellows and I'd love to have a beer with each of you (individually).

This website can get pretty opinionated but at the end of the day there's almost no one on here that I wouldn't ski with for a day.

 

[raisingarizona]

Change is inevitable it's the only thing that never changes.

And it's the one thing people seem to fight more than anything. Go with the flow is my motto.

Indeed. The human brain generally hates change.

 

[dblskifanatic]

I would 100% wear a mask if I took the PATH.

The Delta variant's breakthrough ability is unfortunately impressive, and I believe we're going to find out in future studies it's greater than what initial studies are showing, simply from the anecdotal evidence piling up of numerous multiple infection events among fully vaxxed individuals, which simply in an Occam's Razor manner suggest to me that it's statistically more aggressive than we're currently being led to believe. I hope I'm wrong, but I've seen enough that I took a lot of money off the table last week as I think the threat of Delta is generally being underappreciated.

Outbreak of 500+ in Provincetown. Ten percent were tested for variant - 53 and were all delta variant. Many were vaccinated, Our son's wedding planner is now positive and had the Pfizer vaccine. I think we are only seeing the beginning.

 

[Hawk]

I know. That is great. I am riding in the Pan Mass Challenge next weekend and the end point for the event is in Provincetown. We are staying for 2 nights. I guess diner reservations might interesting.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Outbreak of 500+ in Provincetown. Ten percent were tested for variant - 53 and were all delta variant. Many were vaccinated, Our son's wedding planner is now positive and had the Pfizer vaccine. I think we are only seeing the beginning.

Thank you for sharing this, I had not seen that one, so that's yet another anecdotal bit of evidence. Almost 70% of those folks were fully vaxxed = I've seen enough. There are now 2 types of people in America, those who are vaccinated, and those who are going to get COVID19.

The sad part about this is I THINK (and I hope I'm wrong) the unvaxxed are going to look at those figures and say, "Oh, the vaccines dont work" and use it as confirmation bias to not get vaccinated, because they will fail to understand two very important things:

1) If your test population is high for expressing a given variable, you are likely to experience high selection rate for that variable, and ~64% of MA residents are fully vaccinated. In other words, you're biasing a higher "pull rate" from the fully vaxxed cohort. Then there's the sociological aspect, whereby one might hypothesize that fully vaxxed people are more likely to be out-and-about & mingling, and thus additionally increasing their rate of incidence over that of the non-vaxxed.

2) If you're fully vaccinated & get COVID19, you're likely to be asymptomatic or experience a mild flu, as opposed to experience the worst flu of your life, or worst case scenario end up six foot under. Almost all deaths now are from unvaxxed people (literally > 99%).

 

[jimmywilson69]

So does the fact we didn't vaccinate to "heard" immunity before delta variant, now mean that between vaccinated folks and those who get delta variant we could achieve heard immunity?

I assume if this is true there is a human life cost which mainly appears to be coming at the expense of those who have chosen not to get vaccinated.

I haven't heard much on the booster front recently. Would a booster include delta variant antibodies?

can't believe I'm asking these questions on a ski forum... LOL

 

[BenedictGomez]

Would a booster include delta variant antibodies?

Clinical trials begin next week for a Delta vaccine version. It's conceptually not much different than how influenza vaccine contains different strains each year, so I hope they dont drag their feet. In a few months I'm going to seek out the JNJ vaccine as my "booster", as I'd like to add the adenovirus version to the mRNA version I got for a wider suite of protection.

 

[deadheadskier]

Interesting. Didn't know you could do that. I got Moderna the first time around. I suppose it wouldn't hurt getting the JnJ.


One thing that I think might help with vax rates is full FDA approval vs just EUA. A percentage of people are holding out for that approval.

 

[cdskier]

One thing that I think might help with vax rates is full FDA approval vs just EUA. A percentage of people are holding out for that approval.

I'm curious how much that will actually help. I think there's people using that simply as a convenient excuse, but even once it is "approved" will then just come up with some other different excuse.

 

[boston_e]

Thank you for sharing this, I had not seen that one, so that's yet another anecdotal bit of evidence. Almost 70% of those folks were fully vaxxed = I've seen enough. There are now 2 types of people in America, those who are vaccinated, and those who are going to get COVID19.

The sad part about this is I THINK (and I hope I'm wrong) the unvaxxed are going to look at those figures and say, "Oh, the vaccines dont work" and use it as confirmation bias to not get vaccinated, because they will fail to understand two very important things:

1) If your test population is high for expressing a given variable, you are likely to experience high selection rate for that variable, and ~64% of MA residents are fully vaccinated. In other words, you're biasing a higher "pull rate" from the fully vaxxed cohort. Then there's the sociological aspect, whereby one might hypothesize that fully vaxxed people are more likely to be out-and-about & mingling, and thus additionally increasing their rate of incidence over that of the non-vaxxed.

2) If you're fully vaccinated & get COVID19, you're likely to be asymptomatic or experience a mild flu, as opposed to experience the worst flu of your life, or worst case scenario end up six foot under. Almost all deaths now are from unvaxxed people (literally > 99%).

100% this is what the unvaxxed people are saying and doing.

 

[2Planker]

The more time it has, the more variant's there will be.

Our half assed approach will cost many more thousands of lives as this increases into the fall

 

[Smellytele]

The more time it has, the more variant's there will be.

Our half assed approach will cost many more thousands of lives as this increases into the fall

Not sure what they could do to make those not getting the shots get the shots…

 

[deadheadskier]

Not sure what they could do to make those not getting the shots get the shots…

Make it hit folks wallet. This really is a no brainer at this point. The vaccines are free, readily available and save lives. Set a deadline of November 1st. You can get a vax for free until that point. After you are on the hook for $500 applied to your federal income tax liability. Use the proceeds to give back to the hospitals that are having to still deal with the unnecessary strain on resources.

 

[Smellytele]

Make it hit folks wallet. This really is a no brainer at this point. The vaccines are free, readily available and save lives. Set a deadline of November 1st. You can get a vax for free until that point. After you are on the hook for $500 applied to your federal income tax liability. Use the proceeds to give back to the hospitals that are having to still deal with the unnecessary strain on resources.

That will never happen. Might as well say you will be executed if you don’t get it.