Vermont Skier Visits Down Significantly Due to COVID-19

[KustyTheKlown]

A step further - the anti vax crowd should be rounded up and sent to camps where they can be concentrated away from the rest of us.

fuck these swine.

 

[Not Sure]

There have been so many mixed messages sent by the government . " Don't wear a mask " Where a mask" " Where two masks " . " Once your vaccinated you don't need a mask anymore" . The explanation given is "the science is evolving" . While the Canadian border is closed the Southern border is wide open and literally a million unvaccinated and a large percentage positive people have crossed and with the assistance of "Our government" be transported to other states .
Then the Government says look at these states rising Covid rates ....We must act and impose more restrictions ....WTF ?

Trust us and get Vaccinated ....???? I can see why people don't .

 

[deadheadskier]

Way to turn it up to 11 with hyperbole and false equivalencies.

I have empathy for trans people as well. My good friend Amy (born Ryan) isn't spreading her "trans" in businesses and schools causing them to shutdown and get people sick. The hormone therapy she receives isn't causing hospitals to delay care for other people.

Again, freedom works both ways. If an individual chooses to refuse the vaccine out of irrational fear, that's fine. But businesses, schools etc, also should have the freedom to protect their staff and bottom line by requiring a vaccine.

 

[deadheadskier]

There have been so many mixed messages sent by the government . " Don't wear a mask " Where a mask" " Where two masks " . " Once your vaccinated you don't need a mask anymore" . The explanation given is "the science is evolving" . While the Canadian border is closed the Southern border is wide open and literally a million unvaccinated and a large percentage positive people have crossed and with the assistance of "Our government" be transported to other states .
Then the Government says look at these states rising Covid rates ....We must act and impose more restrictions ....WTF ?

Trust us and get Vaccinated ....???? I can see why people don't .

The current entrance policies for the Southern and Northern borders differ? Please explain

 

[cdskier]

A step further - the anti vax crowd should be rounded up and sent to camps where they can be concentrated away from the rest of us.

fuck these swine.

Sorry...that's a line I won't cross or ever support crossing.

I will 100% support restrictions on things unvaccinated "want" to do though (i.e. I support restaurants requiring proof of vaccination to eat there, concerts requiring it to attend, airlines requiring it to fly, etc). You put enough limits on what people can do if they choose to not get the vaccine and it'll put pressure at least on a good number of people to do it without an actual "mandate" from the government. I'd also support financial incentives (i.e. surcharges from insurance companies for people that aren't vaccinated just like many insurance policies have surcharges for smokers).

 

[Not Sure]

The current entrance policies for the Southern and Northern borders differ? Please explain

Legal crossings no . Illegal yes . Nobody should be allowed in that isn’t willing to get vaccinated!
30% of illegals are not accepting the vaccine and are still being transported to other states!

Canada finally opening to vaccinated US citizens August 9th .

 

[Andrew B.]

Way to turn it up to 11 with hyperbole and false equivalencies.

Again, freedom works both ways. If an individual chooses to refuse the vaccine out of irrational fear, that's fine. But businesses, schools etc, also should have the freedom to protect their staff and bottom line by requiring a vaccine.

there are no false equivalencies when it comes to personal healthcare. People should and are allowed to choose.

business’s are fine to set what ever rules they need/want to. People are free not to work there.

Schools are totally a different matter. Education is a right in this country. Just ask any number of progressives.

 

[deadheadskier]

Both the private College and public University I attended required vaccines. I didn't have a problem with that (and it's never been an issue of intense national debate) and I also wouldn't have a problem with the same policy for K-12.

 

[Andrew B.]

I didn't have a problem with that…… I also wouldn't have a problem with the same policy

Are you really that self absorbed?

 

[deadheadskier]

Are you really that self absorbed?

Excuse me? Lol

The self absorbed folks are the fuck your feelings, I'm going to do whatever I want even if it hurts other people crowd.

Want me to hold the mirror for you?

 

[KustyTheKlown]

thats rich. some asshole trumpeting anti-vax bullshit calling the people who give a fuck about getting society back to some semblance of normal 'self-absorbed'

fuck you. seriously. fuck you in the eye ball with a rusty screwdriver.

 

[Andrew B.]

Excuse me? Lol

The self absorbed folks are the fuck your feelings, I'm going to do whatever I want even if it hurts other people crowd.

Want me to hold the mirror for you?

Pretty sure you’re in the “fuck your feelings” crowd not me. I am trying to be respectful of people’s concerns, you want full compliance regardless of anyone’s person issues.

FWIW: I am fully vaccinated and have pushed all my loved ones to do the same.

 

[Andrew B.]

thats rich. some asshole trumpeting anti-vax bullshit calling the people who give a fuck about getting society back to some semblance of normal 'self-absorbed'

fuck you. seriously. fuck you in the eye ball with a rusty screwdriver.

I am not anti-vax at all

and sorry to let you in on the secret we won’t be pre-pandemic “normal” in 50 years if by then

 

[deadheadskier]

Pretty sure you’re in the “fuck your feelings” crowd not me. I am trying to be respectful of people’s concerns, you want full compliance regardless of anyone’s person issues.

FWIW: I am fully vaccinated and have pushed all my loved ones to do the same.

How many times do I need to explain this to you Andrew?

I have now said multiple times that if people wish to not get vaccinated, that's their choice.

But I also support businesses, schools etc , to choose to not allow access to those people.

Again, freedom works both ways

There's actually a restaurant in California I believe that is marketing that they don't want vaccinated people to enter. Their choice. I'll dine elsewhere. If someone wants to open a vaccine free school, they can do that too.

 

[Andrew B.]

How many times do I need to explain this to you Andrew?

I have now said multiple times that if people wish to not get vaccinated, that's their choice.

But I also support businesses, schools etc , to choose to not allow access to those people.

Again, freedom works both ways

There's actually a restaurant in California I believe that is marketing that they don't want vaccinated people to enter. Their choice. I'll dine elsewhere. If someone wants to open a vaccine free school, they can do that too.

I am not arguing any of those points except public schools and if public schools want only vax’d kids they need to provide for those who for what ever personal reasons can’t/won’t get vax’d

 

[KustyTheKlown]

that's an absurd position. public schools have required vaccinations for decades. these assholes shouldn't be accommodated, they should be exterminated.

 

[abc]

some asshole trumpeting anti-vax bullshit calling the people who give a fuck about getting society back to some semblance of normal 'self-absorbed'

Your "feeling" is misplaced.

I have no patience for those spreading the misinformation. But you can't just round all the vaccine hesitant people in with the anti-vaxxers.

The government has been sending mixed messages. Some southern governors are FORBIDDING businesses not serving the unvaccinated. If that's not the ultimate anti-vax movement, I don't know what is. And that's "from the government"!

 

[deadheadskier]

I am not arguing any of those points except public schools and if public schools want only vax’d kids they need to provide for those who for what ever personal reasons can’t/won’t get vax’d

Okay, how do you feel public schools should provide for those who are not vaccinated?

 

[skiur]

I am not arguing any of those points except public schools and if public schools want only vax’d kids they need to provide for those who for what ever personal reasons can’t/won’t get vax’d

I don't know where you went to public school, but I needed to be vaccinated to go to public school back in the 80's, why is that a problem now?

 

[abc]

Okay, how do you feel public schools should provide for those who are not vaccinated?

They should be taught by unvaccinated teachers!