What in the world is going on at wildcat…

[2Planker]

best snowmaking window in weeks. how's wildcat doing?

Attitash IS making snow today....
So WC is Off Line

No one has seen both places make snow at the same time. So until proven wrong we're gonna go with that.
I heard BOTH places are still trying to get more snowmakers......

Cannon was good yesterday, BW tmrw

 

[Wolfman]

Attitash IS making snow today....
So WC is Off Line

No one has seen both places make snow at the same time. So until proven wrong we're gonna go with that.
I heard BOTH places are still trying to get more snowmakers......

Cannon was good yesterday, BW tmrw

That's not true. Snowmaking on the bobcat today and polecat yesterday.

They are still hiring though.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Attitash IS making snow today....
So WC is Off Line

No one has seen both places make snow at the same time. So until proven wrong we're gonna go with that.
I heard BOTH places are still trying to get more snowmakers......

Cannon was good yesterday, BW tmrw

cannon really seems to be hammering the hill with snow. really setting the bar for new hampshire this year. yay socialism?!? the overt capitalist resorts seem to be fucking awful right now.

 

[skimagic]

given all the bitchn lately I'm surprised no one is complaining about Cannon wasting of taxpayer money on snowmaking , hiring all the workers and driving the capitalist resorts out of business.

 

[Smellytele]

given all the bitchn lately I'm surprised no one is complaining about Cannon wasting of taxpayer money on snowmaking , hiring all the workers and driving the capitalist resorts out of business.

You did it for us

 

[Edd]

Attitash IS making snow today....
So WC is Off Line

No one has seen both places make snow at the same time. So until proven wrong we're gonna go with that.
I heard BOTH places are still trying to get more snowmakers......

Cannon was good yesterday, BW tmrw

BW was good today. I’m gonna make a last minute call tomorrow on BW or Cannon.

 

[snoseek]

BW was good today. I’m gonna make a last minute call tomorrow on BW or Cannon.

The entire front is being blasted hard with beautiful chalk and the stuff after zoomer lookers right will likely open tomorrow. I will be back Thursday and maybe Friday

The rest of the mountain was typical cannon hardpack but wasn't real fast to ski off.

 

[shpride]

Agreed. I saw snowmaking going on at both Attitash and Wildcat yesterday. It doesn’t look like a cloud of snow like Cannon but it is going on. Also the summit at Wildcat is finally open.

 

[Edd]

The Conway Daily Sun:

Tough early sledding for Vail at Attitash, Wildcat

BARTLETT — According to complaints seen on social media and heard in calls to the press, it’s been a rough start to the season for Vail Resorts, Inc., the Colorado-based

www.conwaydailysun.com

 

[kendo]

and related Q&A article...

Vail managers: 'We share in the frustration'

BROOMFIELD, Colo. — The Sun on Jan. 3 sent a set of questions to Vail Resorts' Adam White, senior manager of resort communications, Northeast Region, and received the following responses

www.conwaydailysun.com

 

[Edd]

and related Q&A article...

Vail managers: 'We share in the frustration'

BROOMFIELD, Colo. — The Sun on Jan. 3 sent a set of questions to Vail Resorts' Adam White, senior manager of resort communications, Northeast Region, and received the following responses

www.conwaydailysun.com

They’re taking no responsibility at all for the poor performance in the MWV.

 

[Smellytele]

and related Q&A article...

Vail managers: 'We share in the frustration'

BROOMFIELD, Colo. — The Sun on Jan. 3 sent a set of questions to Vail Resorts' Adam White, senior manager of resort communications, Northeast Region, and received the following responses

www.conwaydailysun.com

Questions weren’t specific enough. Like why not ask why are you only paying snowmakers $x an hour while others in the area are paying $x?
Not able to ask follow ups was an issue as well

 

[So Inclined]

"We continue to correct maintenance items proactively as they come up"

 

[pinion]

"We continue to correct maintenance items proactively as they come up"

Ha. This is MBA level grammar right here.

 

[slatham]

"We continue to correct maintenance items proactively as they come up"

I could buy the "we inherited old infrastructure" and are dealing with issues "as they come up" IF this was year #1 of ownership. But they bought Peak Resorts 2 1/2 years ago, so this is the third winter of operation. And this is VAIL, with decades of resort Management and $1.5 bill of CASH. I don't think anyone would expect at this point old lifts to be replaced and wholesale overhauls of snowmaking systems, but it is more than reasonable to expect current systems to be checked, tested, maintained and WORKING. Peak ran with these same systems - did this happen under their watch? Don't think so, but I not a MWV local.

 

[Edd]

I could buy the "we inherited old infrastructure" and are dealing with issues "as they come up" IF this was year #1 of ownership. But they bought Peak Resorts 2 1/2 years ago, so this is the third winter of operation. And this is VAIL, with decades of resort Management and $1.5 bill of CASH. I don't think anyone would expect at this point old lifts to be replaced and wholesale overhauls of snowmaking systems, but it is more than reasonable to expect current systems to be checked, tested, maintained and WORKING. Peak ran with these same systems - did this happen under their watch? Don't think so, but I not a MWV local.

Peak had problems with snowmaking for sure, but Vail could crush these issues if they chose to spend the $. They’re choosing not to.

 

[deadheadskier]

I could buy the "we inherited old infrastructure" and are dealing with issues "as they come up" IF this was year #1 of ownership. But they bought Peak Resorts 2 1/2 years ago, so this is the third winter of operation. And this is VAIL, with decades of resort Management and $1.5 bill of CASH. I don't think anyone would expect at this point old lifts to be replaced and wholesale overhauls of snowmaking systems, but it is more than reasonable to expect current systems to be checked, tested, maintained and WORKING. Peak ran with these same systems - did this happen under their watch? Don't think so, but I not a MWV local.

Other than the triple at Attitash, no glaring issues at Peak in NH. There were snowmaking issues at Wildcat they inherited and they did a great job with the upgrades. Most importantly they used the system better than Vail.

 

[abc]

"We continue to correct maintenance items proactively as they come up"

I could buy the...

The point being, to act "while they come up" is reaction, not proactive!

Reading between the line of the "MBA level grammar" as @SL point it, aka corporate double talk, it's Vail saying "This is the best we'll do. Be grateful that we're doing anything at all. It could be worse..."

 

[Keelhauled]

Seems to me like the difference in saying "this snowcat is due for an oil change in five hours" and "eh, well, the engine isn't going to spin a bearing if we do it next week." But that's not much to brag about, really. Look at us, we're meeting literally the most basic standards.

 

[Newpylong]

Those responses are a bunch of BS, sorry.

Antiquated infrastructure? At the Cat they inherited those booster pumps from Peaks which were nearly brand NEW. A break in the pipe? I know the welder who deals with most of their blows outs, and he drops what he's doing to help ski areas out. There are no supply chain issues for welding a damn pipe.

Being up on snowmaking hours over last year at Attitash is nothing to market, the snowmaking has been abysmal since Vail bought the mountain and anyone who knew how to work that system left.

This company should be taken to task to answer for their incompetence. Of course, it's too easy to blame covid or staffing issues. The independent hills must be operating under a different environment then...