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What the heck is going on at Magic?

skifasttakechances

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No - what I mean is if you truly want to support this business, you should, in fact, what to pay whatever price is necessary to keep this business open. If that price happens to be full boat, than you should be willing to pay that. Again to support this business.

Blind leading the blind mentality ...
 

farlep99

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No - what I mean is if you truly want to support this business, you should, in fact, what to pay whatever price is necessary to keep this business open. If that price happens to be full boat, than you should be willing to pay that. Again to support this business.

I guess I should pay about 1.5mil for a lift ticket then, because that's about the price necessary to keep the business open.

How about I pay a fair market rate for 1 trail (maybe something like $39, which even that is on the high side, but I'd pay it), and I spend a lot of $ in the bar throughout the day?

I'll still support them if they charge full rate- I'll just ski at Bromley or Stratton & then drink at Magic afterwards.
 

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I guess I should pay about 1.5mil for a lift ticket then, because that's about the price necessary to keep the business open.

How about I pay a fair market rate for 1 trail (maybe something like $39, which even that is on the high side, but I'd pay it), and I spend a lot of $ in the bar throughout the day?

I'll still support them if they charge full rate- I'll just ski at Bromley or Stratton & then drink at Magic afterwards.

How about $67 lift ticket that includes an open bar for the day. That would sell.
 

deadheadskier

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Question. Are the business and the land two separate entities? I thought I had heard that. I would think if someone wanted to buy the place and make a difference, they'd want control of both, so they could build real estate to help fund lift and snowmaking repairs.
 

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That's absurd. This isn't a charity. I'll say it again - being a supporter does not mean being stupid.

Frankly, a business that is incapable of delivering a fair product at a fair price does not deserve support.

I think that the faithful and the volunteers would disagree with you on that one. Pretty sure that the Volunteer Days would constitute some form of a charity.

No matter what, I always like to throw out some posts that come from a business owner's perspective. What I have found in this thread, as well as numerous other threads, are posters overall disconnect between the "mountain" and what operates the "Ski Resort" I do not look at them as two separate entities, but most people on here do. Its as if, because its a mountain there is a certain right to ski it and belief that patrons have a say in how it is operated as a resort. That is the nice thing about capitalism and freedom in this country, if you don't like it, take your dollars elsewhere. Instead, what I see on here and FB is the typical beaten puppy syndrome. Keep getting hit with the newspaper and still comeback and lick the owners hand.
 

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Fair enough. Wonder why they hold onto an asset that likely won't appreciate anytime soon.

I would guess because there is no market to sell it. The land is worth very little other than as a resort. However, you would think it would be in the best interests of the land owners to make the resort profitable. Once magic shuts its door, all revenue to the land owner is lost.
 

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I would guess because there is no market to sell it. The land is worth very little other than as a resort. However, you would think it would be in the best interests of the land owners to make the resort profitable. Once magic shuts its door, all revenue to the land owner is lost.

You mean other than the group that tried to buy it this summer?
 

deadheadskier

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You mean other than the group that tried to buy it this summer?

Did they try and boy both land and business or just the business.

Seems to me if I'm the landowner, I'd hope the current lessee drops out and I sell the whole package. Doesn't seem like it's a good scenario to remain as landlord is the gist of what I'm saying.
 
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