What the heck is going on at Magic?

[Brewbeer]

So sad. Current management team needs to be shown to the door.

 

[VTKilarney]

So sad. Current management team needs to be shown to the door.

I don't see how the mountain survives this summer. The good news is that their management appears to be so poor that the mountain will change hands sooner than later - whether through bankruptcy or a sale.

 

[farlep99]

Pj can you ask the tramway guy what he thinks they might charge since they don't want to say publicly? Cheers buddy


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[VTKilarney]

Dear Mr. Lift Inspector:

We were busy with other projects because the weather was warm, but we think that our chairlift is ready to pass inspection. Please come soon.

 

[mbedle]

Very surprised that the tramway guy was speaking to the public on that matter. Not sure that followed standard RTK laws.

 

[Sorcerer]

I just got off the phone with the VT Tramway board. I was told that Magic's lifts (aka the Red Chair) have not been certified yet. According to the lady that I spoke to, they had parts delivered today, they are hoping to get them in tonight, and open tomorrow (not sure where the inspection comes in, but maybe tomorrow morning?). Mike Nellis (the inspector for our area) is happy to take phone calls and told her to give out his number (802-777-2242). He may be able to give you more up to date or more specific information than that. I plan to call him on my drive up, and will update if I speak to him. If someone else speaks to him first and wants to update here, that would be appreciated.

I think the part has been installed. (I think it was something like a circuit breaker and doesn't need much testing). The chair has been moving so I guess it has been installed. Not sure what needs to be done to "certify" it.

 

[UYSDYP]

Tramway works for the public. I assume it's public knowledge. She was very nice on the phone and even called with updates. I think they are very sympathetic with whats going on.

 

[VTKilarney]

Very surprised that the tramway guy was speaking to the public on that matter. Not sure that followed standard RTK laws.

RTK laws are designed force as much transparency as possible. Whether or not a lift is certified, and what its failings were, are a matter of public record. It's similar to how you can pull up restaurant inspections.

 

[VTKilarney]

I think the part has been installed. (I think it was something like a circuit breaker and doesn't need much testing). The chair has been moving so I guess it has been installed. Not sure what needs to be done to "certify" it.

That's some much needed good news.

 

[mbedle]

Yes they do and that is the reason why we have RTK laws. It's not any different than me calling up the township office and asking them to tell me everything my neighbor may have done. I'm also not sure that it is really their business to be saying anything other than the lift is not certified. Stating the they had parts delivered, hoping to get them in tonight and open tomorrow, is outside what would be considered public knowledge.

 

[VTKilarney]

Yes they do and that is the reason why we have RTK laws. It's not any different than me calling up the township office and asking them to tell me everything my neighbor may have done.

It's quite different. Unless your neighbor operates a chair lift for the paying public. If that's the case, then it's not much different.

 

[mbedle]

RTK laws are designed force as much transparency as possible. Whether or not a lift is certified, and what its failings were, are a matter of public record. It's similar to how you can pull up restaurant inspections.

RTK laws include specific actions that need to be taken to view public records. They require filing a request, allow the party the generated the information to review it, redact it if necessary and provide the material to the person whom requested it. Placing a phone call to a state agency and having them divulge communications between them and another party over the phone, does not comply with RTK laws. At least in PA, maybe VT is different.

 

[mbedle]

FB comments on the inspection just got deleted... Someone is pissed off. LOL

 

[VTKilarney]

RTK laws include specific actions that need to be taken to view public records. They require filing a request, allow the party the generated the information to review it, redact it if necessary and provide the material to the person whom requested it. Placing a phone call to a state agency and having them divulge communications between them and another party over the phone, does not comply with RTK laws. At least in PA, maybe VT is different.

I don't have the energy to answer in detail, but you are confusing a formal request for documents with a phone call. You don't need the entirety of the former's procedure for the latter.


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[PearlJam09]

Just got a phone call from the inspector who told me that red chair was good to go

 

[UYSDYP]

Great news PJ thanks for posting.

 

[mbedle]

Just got a phone call from the inspector who told me that red chair was good to go

Okay - so they were out at the site between the time that the lady someone spoke to said it wasn't certified till the time you just got off the phone with the inspector? Or, did the lady on the phone misspeak? If I owned Magic, I'd be going after someone for spreading that rumor the day before opening day! I guess that explains why the comment was deleted off of FB.

 

[JamaicaMan]

It just got approved minutes ago so she was right at that time.


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[MadMadWorld]

I thought I was a procrastinator

 

[PearlJam09]

Okay - so they were out at the site between the time that the lady someone spoke to said it wasn't certified till the time you just got off the phone with the inspector? Or, did the lady on the phone misspeak? If I owned Magic, I'd be going after someone for spreading that rumor the day before opening day! I guess that explains why the comment was deleted off of FB.

I spoke to Mike Nellis at 5:10 and it was not approved yet. He called me back once it was. The concept of linear time is amazing, huh?