VTKilarney
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What the heck is going on at Magic?
- Thread starter slatham
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I'm very happy. It warms the heart to see both parties just have Magic's well being at the forefront of their priorities. Literally every person involved has been so only because they love the place and the continuation of work and plans is testament to that for sure.
from a FB posting indicating work is being done to have Black ready for the season
To be brutally honest, I would think twice about riding that lift personally. Hopefully the new owners will just outright replace it.
shpride
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from a FB posting indicating work is being done to have Black ready for the season
At first glance I had thought this was a picture of one of the chairs falling off the wire
Not Sure
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Yeah, really. :lol:
Hopefully the Faithful can explain what has been done to keep it going and what future plans lie ahead.
I hear you. Last I checked there was actually a plan to phase it out and I know the new guys want it replaced but I don't know what their timeline looks like. It still works fine and wouldn't be given the to ahead if it wasnt 100% safe but it's just a frankenlift and it's getting harder and harder to source parts. I'd personally love to see it replaced by a nice quiet fixed grip double. I just don't like it because it's a raised motor chair with no lift shack so it's super loud whereas the red is a sub motor with a shack so it runs almost completely silent. Also the chair pads. I like chair pads haha
SkiingInABlueDream
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Savemeasammy
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I'd rather see a triple - or even a quad. IMO, these are more "family friendly", and I think Magic would benefit. They could always space the chairs further to limit capacity if that were an issue.
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Sorcerer
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I think everyone would like to see the lift replaced. I, myself, find it very uncomfortable to ride. In the meantime, a lot of work has been done to keep it going, and the lift inspectors, who are very thorough, check it out every year to make sure it's safe. It was shut done last year because the chairs would not swing easily. That is one of the things currently being worked on and is very time consuming because the "bearings" in each chair have to be replaced.
Smellytele
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Only family friendly if you have 3 (or 5 or 6). Doesn't help if you have 4 - doubles are better then.
Yeah I'm speaking mostly in terms of affordability. Triples and quads get much more expensive. Doubles are easy to come by and relatively inexpensive both in initial purchase terms and also log term cost. If it was dream time I'd say sure, go for it but in real terms if we had the red, the black and the green all as fixed-grip doubles we'd be totally fine IMO. Few moving parts, they run low so they don't go on wind hold and are easily run by relatively few staff.
Newpylong
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Capacity wise I think a double would be fine but I think you would have a hard time finding a decent used double with that line length and rise. On the other hand, there are plenty of fixed grip quads and triples out there in decent shape that were replaced with high speed quads. For example, the Barnstormer that just came out of Haystack, had the length and with an upgraded motor could handle the rise. Lift was in beautiful shape.
If you go new, the incremental cost going from double to triple to quad is not as high as you would think. In some cases it costs more to make doubles because they are out of production save special orders.
If you go new, the incremental cost going from double to triple to quad is not as high as you would think. In some cases it costs more to make doubles because they are out of production save special orders.
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Dickc
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After much reading of this thread, and having NEVER been to Magic, I might find some time on a Thursday to venture up there in January or February and see what all the noise is about. Old chairlifts do not bother me as long as they have had their proper inspection and are not located at Sugarloaf......
Savemeasammy
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"Better"? No. Serviceable, yes.
My guess is that the more casual skiers out there (i.e. people who do not spend time on ski forums during the summer!) would find these higher capacity chairs more appealing. I know that when all four in our family go skiing, we prefer to ride up together if we can.
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Savemeasammy
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Agree. Given the choice between red and a higher capacity black chair, OR a red, black AND green - albeit all doubles, I would opt for that. I know I've said it before, but I believe that green would help to draw - and more importantly, keep - families at Magic
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slatham
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I was thinking the same thing. I would also think install cost are same/close whether double/triple/quad. Anyone have any hard data or real experience on this - and the above?
In the end it may simply come down to what lifts are available when Magic decides to take the plunge.
Smellytele
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I was thinking of a triple where the whole family couldn't fit. I have 5 so a triple is a lot better than a double and about the same as a quad.
