when will killington be sold?

[RootDKJ]

a bump, a bump, a bump



GSS had his head-pod going in this one :lol:

 

[SkiDork]

Nick - thanks for posting that about Lynn. Thats the 1st time I've ever seen something like that about someone who was aboard the plane that slammed into my building just 20 floors above me. May she RIP

Jeff

 

[David Metsky]

True, and Nick can do what he wants even if 99% of people oppose it. I am just tired of hearing about this silent majority and I highly doubt it actually exists.

As a moderator on other message boards I can assure you that it exists. While all cases are different, it has been my experience that for each person vocally supporting a disruptive/enthusiastic user, there are several who are not but don't wish to be attacked in public for their stance. They send PMs to the moderators, or they just leave the site. It's not absolute proof, but I think my experience is valid.

In this particular case, I left AZ a few years ago because of posters like GSS. I only came back after he was gone and things settled down here. I prefer to spend my time on message boards that have calmer more respectful dialog. That doesn't mean I think it's better or worse (TGR certainly has its place) but I choose not to spend any time at those type of sites.

If GSS was let back and was on his best behavior then I'd be fine with it. My experience from years of moderating message boards is that it is unlikely to play out that way. I'd certainly leave again if it were the case. This isn't to say that Nick or any other Admin would be wrong to allow that type of discussion on a message board, just that it's not my cup of tea and I have plenty of other options on the interwebs.

 

[JerseyJoey]

You can start your own poll. Don't forget to include a "meh" answer for those of us who are ambivalent.

Why does it matter if you can write with both hands?

 

[campgottagopee]

As a moderator on other message boards I can assure you that it exists. While all cases are different, it has been my experience that for each person vocally supporting a disruptive/enthusiastic user, there are several who are not but don't wish to be attacked in public for their stance. They send PMs to the moderators, or they just leave the site. It's not absolute proof, but I think my experience is valid.

In this particular case, I left AZ a few years ago because of posters like GSS. I only came back after he was gone and things settled down here. I prefer to spend my time on message boards that have calmer more respectful dialog. That doesn't mean I think it's better or worse (TGR certainly has its place) but I choose not to spend any time at those type of sites.

If GSS was let back and was on his best behavior then I'd be fine with it. My experience from years of moderating message boards is that it is unlikely to play out that way. I'd certainly leave again if it were the case. This isn't to say that Nick or any other Admin would be wrong to allow that type of discussion on a message board, just that it's not my cup of tea and I have plenty of other options on the interwebs.

So you've banned someone then let them back in??? Just curious, which board are you a mod on.

 

[mondeo]

Heres where we start repeating ourselves.

I think its pretty clear the mods dont want him back and have convinced Nick of this. Just dont piss off the CLITs I guess as theyll just justify it as "not pleasing everyone". What a cop out, should be "not pleasing anyone who might disagree with the inner circle".

They do seem to have changed their tone a bit, so thats a start.

iMuscle, HS, and Thorski are still here. If "piss[ing] off the [Conneticut skiers]" was all there was to it, they'd have been shown the door way before GSS was, and iMuscle is still pure asshole. (Lest I get another unnecessary roughness call, I'll just state that I have no problems with HS or TS.)

Theory disproven.

 

[campgottagopee]

iMuscle, HS, and Thorski are still here. If "piss[ing] off the [Conneticut skiers]" was all there was to it, they'd have been shown the door way before GSS was, and iMuscle is still pure asshole. (Lest I get another unnecessary roughness call, I'll just state that I have no problems with HS or TS.)

Theory disproven.

That's just it, IMO, GSS isn't a pure asshole.

 

[David Metsky]

So you've banned someone then let them back in???

We've given people 2 week and 1 month suspensions. The same has been tried on some other boards I frequent. It works if people are going through a rough patch and are not quite themselves. It doesn't work if that's simply their personality. Things might go OK for a short while but something will set them off again and the drama continues.

Again, I have no problems with it if that's the type of site the owners want. I can't speak for others but I won't be staying around in that case.

 

[campgottagopee]

We've given people 2 week and 1 month suspensions. The same has been tried on some other boards I frequent. It works if people are going through a rough patch and are not quite themselves. It doesn't work if that's simply their personality. Things might go OK for a short while but something will set them off again and the drama continues.

Again, I have no problems with it if that's the type of site the owners want. I can't speak for others but I won't be staying around in that case.

Well, we will never know until GSS is let back in.

Don't take this the wrong way, but 500 post's in 10 years...you're not around that much to begin with....just sayin'

 

[deadheadskier]

If GSS was let back and was on his best behavior then I'd be fine with it. My experience from years of moderating message boards is that it is unlikely to play out that way. I'd certainly leave again if it were the case. This isn't to say that Nick or any other Admin would be wrong to allow that type of discussion on a message board, just that it's not my cup of tea and I have plenty of other options on the interwebs.

No experience with reinstatement here.

Just wanted to point out that it was mentioned in this thread that GSS get's suspended from PASKIandRide 4 times a year. Clearly discipline doesn't result in changed behavior on his behalf.

Quite frankly, that's not the kind of baby sitting any of the moderators or Nick wants to do. We really don't care to have to discipline anyone. It's a pain in the ass and kind of ridiculous to have to do with grown adults. The rules are there, follow them. We're lenient and don't expect them to be followed all the time. Hell, most of the moderators are guilty of breaking rules from time to time. But there is a limit.

Also would like to mention again that he was warned probably close to 50 times to stop certain kinds of behavior. WAY more than any other person that's been banned. Each time a warning was given, he didn't apologize and he didn't stop breaking the rules he was warned on. He basically told us to eff off. I know if I tell a business owner to eff off, I get kicked out. That's just how it goes.

over and over and over and over and over again we were told to eff off.

I have zero faith that that pattern would change.

 

[JerseyJoey]

I love it. The light green people vs the dark green people.

 

[campgottagopee]

No experience with reinstatement here.




I have zero faith that that pattern would change.

Let's see if your right

 

[deadheadskier]

That fact that he gets kicked out of PASR 4 times a year proves I'm right.

 

[thorski]

iMuscle, HS, and Thorski are still here. If "piss[ing] off the [Conneticut skiers]" was all there was to it, they'd have been shown the door way before GSS was, and iMuscle is still pure asshole. (Lest I get another unnecessary roughness call, I'll just state that I have no problems with HS or TS.)

Theory disproven.

I am a CT. skier. I will also ad that i have been a force of good on this website for sometime now.
As far as GSS goes i don't know anything about it but goofing around on a site like this is one thing, F'n with someone on Facebook is a different matter.

I hope Powdr doesn't sell Killington they do a pretty good job as long as they stay open till at least May 1st. The only problem i had with them was closing early. I still don't understand why they wouldn't stay open past may 1st when they could make money.

Now is Ski Sundown gonna put some guns in the woods and open up Area 51 full time?

 

[campgottagopee]

That fact that he gets kicked out of PASR 4 times a year proves I'm right.

Because you read it on the internet makes it a "fact"????

 

[RootDKJ]

That fact that he gets kicked out of PASR 4 times a year proves I'm right.

Where did this fact come from?

 

[ALLSKIING]

Let's see if your right

Not even worth are time to try.... look at how much time we spent on this already. No reason to go over this 1000 times Nick already made his decision..... Its getting very old.

 

[o3jeff]

It appears some of you guys must of missed this at the end of Nicks post so I'll repost it a little bigger....

So anyway. Cliff notes for all you TL;DR's: I am not unbanning anyone.

Hope you guys understand. -Nick

 

[mondeo]

I am a CT. skier. I will also ad that i have been a force of good on this website for sometime now.

And I'll back you up, Sundown does need a half-pipe and another trail like Gunbarrel so they can have racing and bumps at the same time. Nor'easter to Ex doesn't count.

POWDR needs to add a deck that's within range of SS. It's a deterrent to have to go all the way to the lodge to buy anything. That said, I don't think they're leaving anytime soon.

 

[campgottagopee]

Not even worth are time to try.... look at how much time we spent on this already. No reason to go over this 1000 times Nick already made his decision..... Its getting very old.

It is getting old, agree. But it wont go away until he's given another chance.