when will killington be sold?

[2knees]

This place exists because of guys like ........, and I,.

hahahahahahahahahaha

come on down off your pedestal son before you hurt yourself.

 

[2knees]

and btw, since we're screaming for reinstatement of banned characters, lets at least make this interesting. I say let fhw and the clown back in. tj has been the lone wolf for far too long and his material is really really, REALLY bad. fhw could make you laugh even when he was ripping your throat out. you gss fans are thinking small time.

 

[dmc]

The personal insults might have had something to do with it. Funny, people always seem to forget that part when bringing him up ...

Late to the party here.. In SoCal..

He may've said something really f'd up but it's only a tiny slice of what he's all about and who among us hasn't crossed the line in their life?

He just happened to do it on Facebook which isn't all tucked away like AZ with people's kids around and stuff.. But at least you can delete the posts quickly and block people completely. . He does feel bad about it and hopefully learned a life lesson..

FREE GSS - PEACE!!!!

Thats all I really have to say..

 

[bvibert]

Oh yeah, I made it up. Ya see, earlier today bvibert sent me a PM apology for this post. While his apology seemed sincere, there was something that struck me as odd about the rest of the message. So left a carrot, which obviously was shared outside of our conversation. :evil: Not cool.

If I were GSS, I wouldn't even bother posting here again. I'd just start to share my trip reports on Epicski.

Sorry Root, I didn't know that detail was meant to be private. I didn't think it was any secret that GSS has been banned multiple times from PASR. So yes, I shared what you told me. If I'd thought you had told me anything in confidence I wouldn't have said anything to anyone else.

I'm sure you won't believe me, but I'm sorry to have broken any trust that there may have been.

My PMs were genuine, no games from me.

 

[Morwax]

i havent been on in a while, so when i saw a 13 page thread about killington being sold i was very interested to see what was going on.
i nominate this thread for worst/most misleading thread ever

Quoted for truth :beer:

 

[Riverskier]

Here's the thing, it's the agnostics who don't care but don't come back b/c of bullshit that leave.

A poll is pointless b/c the agnostics by definition won't care enough to vote. But they do care enough to not come back to AZ. I said earlier I've received many PM's, I got three more this afternoon from people who said they came back after the GSS situation blew over and zero on the opposite side. It's anecdotal; yes, but no one here can say the guy didn't have a chance, so I don't feel bad.

Just because there is a new owner in town doesn't mean there is some biblical washing of all sins, ya know. :smash:

Hey, like I said before (and goes without saying), it is your website and certainly doesn't have to operate like a democracy. You can keep him banned because he skis in PA, or wears red shoes, or whatever reason you want. That said, your posts continue with the silent majority theory and with the excuses for why a poll would be invalid. Wouldn't the agnostics that don't mind or even like GSS not bother to vote too, just like the ones who don't like him? I believe you received some PM's against allowing GSS back in, but at least 15-20 members (didn't count, not going to) spoke up in favor of his reinstatement. Many of these members are great contributors and don't participate in flame wars, and are of a very diverse demographic. I can't help but feel that as opposed to a silent majority, it is actually a vocal minority. Any comparison I make could be refuted as being different, but it is like schools no longer having Christmas parties. One has to believe most families (including of other religions) have no problems with these celebrations, but a few vocal opponents ruin it for everyone. I think that is the case here, as do many others, and without a chance to prove that theory wrong, we will continue to feel that way. Again, you don't want him here, FINE no excuse required, but I don't believe the majority of members feel that way. I mean seriously, how many people's experience could actually be ruined because they don't like what someone has to say? Simply ignore them.

 

[wa-loaf]

He may've said something really f'd up but it's only a tiny slice of what he's all about and who among us hasn't crossed the line in their life?

He just happened to do it on Facebook which isn't all tucked away like AZ with people's kids around and stuff.. But at least you can delete the posts quickly and block people completely. . He does feel bad about it and hopefully learned a life lesson..

FREE GSS - PEACE!!!!

Thats all I really have to say..

I'm actually not opposed to him coming back. But I'm not going to fight for him either. It just seems that the folks who are really rooting for him gloss over the nastiness.

 

[skiadikt]

i'm hoping after two years or whatever it's been, that he has a life and doesn't want to come back ...

 

[dmc]

I'm actually not opposed to him coming back. But I'm not going to fight for him either. It just seems that the folks who are really rooting for him gloss over the nastiness.

Not at all... No glossing... At least the people I know that interact with..
We all know he' F'd up.. He knows he F'd up... He loves skiing and talking about skiing.. So he wants to come back. He entertains me so I want him back...

We all know he's a good dude at heart.. A sandwich short of a picnic but still cool..

 

[dmc]

i'm hoping after two years or whatever it's been, that he has a life and doesn't want to come back ...

baw haw.. He's still hangin and bangin at the Sizzler - doing free style raps and setting tombstones...

 

[gmcunni]

baw haw.. He's still hangin and bangin at the Sizzler - doing free style raps and setting tombstones...

so you're saying he hasn't changed?

 

[dmc]

so you're saying he hasn't changed?

Not at all.. Still the same - steezy...

You can chill to hip hop and cruise the salad bar and still learn lessons and feel bad about stuff yo...

 

[2knees]

Hey, like I said before (and goes without saying), it is your website and certainly doesn't have to operate like a democracy. You can keep him banned because he skis in PA, or wears red shoes, or whatever reason you want. That said, your posts continue with the silent majority theory and with the excuses for why a poll would be invalid. Wouldn't the agnostics that don't mind or even like GSS not bother to vote too, just like the ones who don't like him? I believe you received some PM's against allowing GSS back in, but at least 15-20 members (didn't count, not going to) spoke up in favor of his reinstatement. Many of these members are great contributors and don't participate in flame wars, and are of a very diverse demographic. I can't help but feel that as opposed to a silent majority, it is actually a vocal minority. Any comparison I make could be refuted as being different, but it is like schools no longer having Christmas parties. One has to believe most families (including of other religions) have no problems with these celebrations, but a few vocal opponents ruin it for everyone. I think that is the case here, as do many others, and without a chance to prove that theory wrong, we will continue to feel that way. Again, you don't want him here, FINE no excuse required, but I don't believe the majority of members feel that way. I mean seriously, how many people's experience could actually be ruined because they don't like what someone has to say? Simply ignore them.

that's a shit ton of words, but you don't care......

 

[snoseek]

He did plenty of contributing here. Tell me you didn't read his stuff when you were sitting behind a desk or whatever. The daily journal shit was priceless!

 

[o3jeff]

Didn't he get a bunch of temporary bans(maybe there is a feature that a mod can look up how many times?) here and given second chances each time?

Sounds like an easy decision for Nick and Stef, if they allow him back some member's will stop coming, if they don't allow him back it seems no one leaving and some old members are coming back and they keep getting threads from the same handful of people about wanting him back which bringing even more traffic here.

I could really care less if he is here or not, doesn't affect my decision if I come here or not.

 

[Glenn]

Wrong. There are at least a dozen or so people in this thread alone that have expressed that they would like to see him back. I still contest that the vast majority of people enjoyed his contributions to this site. And for the record, I don't care about getting my way. With the wife, maybe, but internet forums not so much. The site was simply more entertaining with GSS on here, and especially heading into the Summer, it would be nice to have him back for entertainment value.

I politely disagree.

Any time this debate comes up, it ends up with a lot of finger pointing at the mods and Greg. I think this is more about people thumbing their noses at a few mods they have a personal beef with. Letting him back in wout be their way of sticking it to them for their "heavy handed, unfair ways."

And OK, you can have your "dozen or so" vs half dozen people. You now have two drops of water in the swimming pool vs one. We'll see if that raises the water level. :wink:

And a little personal "Irony". I realize I keep razzing people who won't let this issue die after over a year and a half...and here I continue to post about it. Mia Culpa. 8)

 

[Glenn]

Which is why I'm starting my own website, called sherlockchat.net. I'm sure it will be a rousing success and not fail completely after an initial short burst of traffic drawing from controversy on this site. To victory!

QFT.

Bravo.

 

[campgottagopee]

I'm actually not opposed to him coming back. But I'm not going to fight for him either. It just seems that the folks who are really rooting for him gloss over the nastiness.

I don't see anyone glossing over the fact he F'd up. I even stated that if he were to be let in and screwed up again I'd be the first one to tell him he's a douche and move on. Whether it's GSS or some other clown I'll fight for them if I feel they were givin the shaft.

 

[RootDKJ]

Sorry Root, I didn't know that detail was meant to be private. I didn't think it was any secret that GSS has been banned multiple times from PASR. So yes, I shared what you told me. If I'd thought you had told me anything in confidence I wouldn't have said anything to anyone else.

I'm sure you won't believe me, but I'm sorry to have broken any trust that there may have been.

My PMs were genuine, no games from me.

I thought that on AZ Private Messages were just that, private. I do believe you're apology was genuine, but you've lost credibility with me for now.

If you had just apologized and not gone on about the history of temp bans on AZ, all the chances GSS was given, etc... your PM to me wouldn't have set off any warnings in my head. Fact is, you did exactly what I expected you to, which was to relay my response to (some) of the other mods. Maybe all of them, I really don't know. Did a play a game there? Sure you betcha. My shining moment? Probably not.

It's (now) Nick's sandbox and you've been given the authority to manage the day-to-day here. My only suggestion would be to take off your moderator hat when apologizing to someone. Luckily, I don't hold grudges or live in the past. I can accept a mistake as a mistake and move on.

 

[campgottagopee]

and btw, since we're screaming for reinstatement of banned characters, lets at least make this interesting. I say let fhw and the clown back in. tj has been the lone wolf for far too long and his material is really really, REALLY bad. fhw could make you laugh even when he was ripping your throat out. you gss fans are thinking small time.

That would be GREAT...problem is FHW and Woddy could care less about posting in here. GSS truly enjoys and misses it. No clue why, but it's true.

FWIW....FHW is on funny SOB