Whiteface = Okemo, but steeper

[tjf67]

A very good question. I admit the answer is no ski area in the east would really hold my attention for an entire week's vacation. Those that come closest are are Stowe, Sugarbush, Sugarloaf, Why, because of size, steeps, variety of terrain, and opportunities for OB exploration. Second to these in my mind are MRG, Jay Peak and Cannon for much the same reasons, trees and exploration opportunites. Usually when I spend a week skiing in the NE I safari around to different areas.

I think Whiteface has tons of potential that, sadly, is far from being realized. That's just my opinion and my skiing style. It's a great place for carving steep groomers. I guess that's just not my thing.

If you hire a guide they will take you to places within a 45 minutes of LP that will give more OB exploration than you could cover in a season.

 

[Greg]

Like SB, Stowe is a great eastern ski mountain. I love that place. I don't know, I'm probably wrong, but the Park City resorts in Utah average less then 333", I kinda doubt Stowe gets more then them.

The difference probably is the East also gets more rain.

 

[Marc]

I got my info hear: Weather in Stowe brought to you by Scenes of Vermont - PB Publishing ... Average Annual Snowfall: 250 inches per year Snowmaking: ...
www.birdsnestinn.com/weather.htm -

Like SB, Stowe is a great eastern ski mountain. I love that place. I don't know, I'm probably wrong, but the Park City resorts in Utah average less then 333", I kinda doubt Stowe gets more then them.

I know, I know LCC gets way more, just sayin about PC area.

Might want to check your sources, HPD. It doesn't say anywhere on your website what Stowe gets for average annual snowfall. Plus, you said "Stowe says" in your post.

Also for the record, PC reports 355 inches annually:

http://www.parkcitymountain.com/winter/conditions/resort_stats

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

A very good question. I admit the answer is no ski area in the east would really hold my attention for an entire week's vacation. Those that come closest are are Stowe, Sugarbush, Sugarloaf, Why, because of size, steeps, variety of terrain, and opportunities for OB exploration. Second to these in my mind are MRG, Jay Peak and Cannon for much the same reasons, trees and exploration opportunites. Usually when I spend a week skiing in the NE I safari around to different areas.

I think Whiteface has tons of potential that, sadly, is far from being realized. That's just my opinion and my skiing style. It's a great place for carving steep groomers. I guess that's just not my thing.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-n-M6cqrKE
http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=333

 

[crank]

If you hire a guide they will take you to places within a 45 minutes of LP that will give more OB exploration than you could cover in a season.

I've been considering doing that. Or possibly the Mt. Marcy tour detailed in Goodman's book. I know there is an ADK backcountry event, or used to be, a couple of my ski buds attended a few season's back and enjoyed some guided trips in the area.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Might want to check your sources, HPD. It doesn't say anywhere on your website what Stowe gets for average annual snowfall. Plus, you said "Stowe says" in your post.

Also for the record, PC reports 355 inches annually:

http://www.parkcitymountain.com/winter/conditions/resort_stats

Yeah, maybe I should. This thread is wearing me out anyways. You baited me cps and it worked, good job.

 

[Greg]

This thread is wearing me out anyways. You baited me cps and it worked, good job.

Don't kid yourself, HPD. You're loving every minute of it!

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Bump for stoke..

 

[dmc]

Yeah, maybe I should. This thread is wearing me out anyways. You baited me cps and it worked, good job.

You done good... Be true to your school...

 

[tjf67]

I've been considering doing that. Or possibly the Mt. Marcy tour detailed in Goodman's book. I know there is an ADK backcountry event, or used to be, a couple of my ski buds attended a few season's back and enjoyed some guided trips in the area.

It still goes on. It is sometime in March. It run out keene valley but they spread out all over the dacks.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Fine with me if you think that, but didn't I finally get you to admit that you never skied WF? I know I remember a post where you didn't know that the Summit chair go to the actual summit of WF. I don't know how anyone could ski there and not know that.

I just don't believe you've ever skied WF. I can't get past the summit chair thing. Let me try to give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe the summit wasn't open the days you where there. Just tell me this, does the gondi go to the summit of Little WF?

Bump for stoke..

Looks like you want to keep it going, so why won't you answer my question?

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Both over groomed and boring. But Whiteface has more angle.

TJF, didn't you and Grostrider use to ski with this guy? I don't know his real name, but he's St. Jerry and he skis Gore alot. He was on RSN and I think he lives in Malta, but Ghostrider told me he tells everybody he lives in Saratoga for the cache effect. Same guy?

 

[tjf67]

TJF, didn't you and Grostrider use to ski with this guy? I don't know his real name, but he's St. Jerry and he skis Gore alot. He was on RSN and I think he lives in Malta, but Ghostrider told me he tells everybody he lives in Saratoga for the cache effect. Same guy?

No clue. It is not the person that you are decribing.

 

[tjf67]

If you read my post here and in the thread I linked to, you might notice I asked questions; I didn't make any blanket statements about a place I've never skied so enlighten me. I like more natural variable terrain even if the cover is thin. I would rather ski 1,000 vertical feet of what I would consider interesting terrain over 3K+ of steep groomers any day. That's just my preference. And I'm not talking just about zipperline moguls either. A good smaller scale analogy would be Jiminy vs. Sundown. The former is much steeper and has more vert, but I would probably take Sundown over Jiminy more often than not for no other reason than those silly little seeded bump runs. That's simply more interesting to me than a groomed Jericho.

We tried to set up a visit this year, HPD. You know that. Scheduling just got a bit difficult. With two little ones at home, I only have limited overnight opportunities each season so I would prefer to have an abundance of the type of terrain that I like. So, maybe you're right and that's why I didn't push to make it happen. I know you think SB is overrated, but for me when coupled with MRG, it has a lot of that type of skiing which is consistently open unlike the Slides or Empire, and at a closer drive than Whiteface. Still, I do want to give Whiteface a try. You never know, if we get a repeat of last April and the Slides are open, there's still a chance...

How do you know that you would rather ski 1k instead of 3k. You have never skied 3k of vert. in one run. So I appreciate what you think you would want to do until you have done them both can you really compare?

 

[Greg]

How do you know that you would rather ski 1k instead of 3k. You have never skied 3k of vert. in one run. So I appreciate what you think you would want to do until you have done them both can you really compare?

Came close.....at Sugarloaf. I'm sure the extra 200 feet of vertical makes a huge difference though... :roll:

 

[takeahike46er]

Actually Greg, its more like 700' feet by my calculation. The 2800' at Sugarloaf is a bit of a stretch. Its more like 2500' unless you are skiing to the beginner area or your condo. Whiteface is a legit 3200' without hiking to the slides.

 

[deadheadskier]

How do you know that you would rather ski 1k instead of 3k. You have never skied 3k of vert. in one run. So I appreciate what you think you would want to do until you have done them both can you really compare?

I don't think the vert is the key part of his arguement, it's the actual terrain. ie. 1000 vert of interesting skiing trumps 3000 vert groomers. I would ski the Palavacini chair anyday at A-Basin, which is maybe 1600 vert, then do top to bottom 4K vert runs at Snowmass.

I think the same arguement could be made for total acreage as well.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

I don't think the vert is the key part of his arguement, it's the actual terrain. ie. 1000 vert of interesting skiing trumps 3000 vert groomers. I would ski the Palavacini chair anyday at A-Basin, which is maybe 1600 vert, then do top to bottom 4K vert runs at Snowmass.

I think the same arguement could be made for total acreage as well.

Anyday, but could you ski it everyday? :wink: terrain off that chair is killer. I don't know what would beat me up more, that everyday or Maryjane.

 

[tjf67]

Came close.....at Sugarloaf. I'm sure the extra 200 feet of vertical makes a huge difference though... :roll:

Did you enjoy sugarloaf?

 

[tjf67]

I don't think the vert is the key part of his arguement, it's the actual terrain. ie. 1000 vert of interesting skiing trumps 3000 vert groomers. I would ski the Palavacini chair anyday at A-Basin, which is maybe 1600 vert, then do top to bottom 4K vert runs at Snowmass.

I think the same arguement could be made for total acreage as well.

Have you ever skied 3k vert and not found interesting terrain?