Whiteface = Okemo, but steeper

[ajl50]

This is on page 8?
Good god it needs to snow around here.

 

[dmc]

I don't think the vert is the key part of his arguement, it's the actual terrain. ie. 1000 vert of interesting skiing trumps 3000 vert groomers. I would ski the Palavacini chair anyday at A-Basin, which is maybe 1600 vert, then do top to bottom 4K vert runs at Snowmass.

I think the same arguement could be made for total acreage as well.

good one... We need to ride.. Deadheads think alike...

I've skied top to bottom at most place I go to out west.. But I only do it at the end of the day..

For me personaly - i find the bottom of most mountains pretty boring.. Like Jackson.. Or Kicking Horse.. Or Big Sky... Or Blackcomb... I could go on... Hell - even Bellayre bores me past the middle station...

Maybe I just got middle station issues...

 

[dmc]

Have you ever skied 3k vert and not found interesting terrain?

Yeah - but sometimes only in the first 1500 feet... And that my contain some of the most kick ass terrain ever... And it may be serviced by a chair... So why waste the time and energy to go all the way to the bottom..?

 

[Greg]

Did you enjoy sugarloaf?

Yes. Now make your next clever point.

 

[snoseek]

Yeah - but sometimes only in the first 1500 feet... And that my contain some of the most kick ass terrain ever... And it may be serviced by a chair... So why waste the time and energy to go all the way to the bottom..?

Agree.

Supreme chair at alta is 900-1000 vert and I used to ski that chair all day.

 

[deadheadskier]

Agree.

Supreme chair at alta is 900-1000 vert and I used to ski that chair all day.

haha,

don't know how dmc is gonna feel about you referencing his post and agreeing with him and offering up a similar example at a place where snowboarders aren't welcome :lol:

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

good one... We need to ride.. Deadheads think alike...

I've skied top to bottom at most place I go to out west.. But I only do it at the end of the day..

For me personaly - i find the bottom of most mountains pretty boring.. Like Jackson.. Or Kicking Horse.. Or Big Sky... Or Blackcomb... I could go on... Hell - even Bellayre bores me past the middle station...

Maybe I just got middle station issues...

Totally..on the one powder day at Jackson Hole I only skied to the bottom twice the entire day..1k of intense terrain beats 3k of brutally groomed in my book..but 3k of brutally groomed is good for mad steezy speed which is a guilty pleasure of mine..up there with 80s music and fat chicks..lol

 

[tjf67]

Yeah - but sometimes only in the first 1500 feet... And that my contain some of the most kick ass terrain ever... And it may be serviced by a chair... So why waste the time and energy to go all the way to the bottom..?

Now a days you can either go through the terrain park or through the half pipe. On the smaller hills you have to choose crazy terrain or man made features. When you have 3k of vert you can do both. Just saying

 

[kcyanks1]

good one... We need to ride.. Deadheads think alike...

I've skied top to bottom at most place I go to out west.. But I only do it at the end of the day..

For me personaly - i find the bottom of most mountains pretty boring.. Like Jackson.. Or Kicking Horse.. Or Big Sky... Or Blackcomb... I could go on... Hell - even Bellayre bores me past the middle station...

Maybe I just got middle station issues...

I wouldn't quite call the Hobacks boring. Not my very favorite style of terrain, but boring?

 

[AdironRider]

Considering the Hobacks have pretty much every style of terrain other than manmade features, have you ever even been in them? They're a consistent 3k vert of 30-35 degree pitch (with gully walls giving you 4-5 turns at 50 plus), with trees, cliffs, powder fields, moguls, anything you can think of. Theres even natural halfpipes down in the lower third.

Ski them on a 12" in pow day and youll never be satisfied with another run again anywhere else.

 

[dmc]

I wouldn't quite call the Hobacks boring. Not my very favorite style of terrain, but boring?

Hobacks are(can be) good - when the aren't baked..
But It really wasn't what I was thinking about...

 

[dmc]

Considering the Hobacks have pretty much every style of terrain other than manmade features, have you ever even been in them? They're a consistent 3k vert of 30-35 degree pitch (with gully walls giving you 4-5 turns at 50 plus), with trees, cliffs, powder fields, moguls, anything you can think of. Theres even natural halfpipes down in the lower third.

Ski them on a 12" in pow day and youll never be satisfied with another run again anywhere else.

I've ridden and skied them a bunch.. And they are good they are great...

Take my original statement and take the Hobacks out..

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

He's probably talking about Sundance and Gros Verte..the steezy speed runs that are brutally groomed..

 

[kcyanks1]

Considering the Hobacks have pretty much every style of terrain other than manmade features, have you ever even been in them? They're a consistent 3k vert of 30-35 degree pitch (with gully walls giving you 4-5 turns at 50 plus), with trees, cliffs, powder fields, moguls, anything you can think of. Theres even natural halfpipes down in the lower third.

Ski them on a 12" in pow day and youll never be satisfied with another run again anywhere else.

Asssuming you are directing your post at me, I've been on other lower faces ~2 times, but I think not the Hobacks. They have not been open much at all when I've been there. I guess I have to have more runs there, but from what I saw it was generally very wide open skiing, which I enjoy, but is not my favorite. I'll hold further comment on it. But I did not mean to bash them. I brought them up though as *good* skiing on the lower part of the mountain in response to DMC's post that the lower part of Jackson isn't good (which he later clarified).

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Enough about Jackson Hole..

Anybody else want to comment on why Iceface and Blow-kemo are inferior to the best resorts in the east???:dunce:

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Enough about Jackson Hole..

Anybody else want to comment on why Iceface and Blow-kemo are inferior to the best resorts in the east???:dunce:

If you had ever skied WF we would have alot more respect for your opinion.

 

[Greg]

If you had ever skied WF we would have alot more respect for your opinion.

Stop taking the bait, HPD. The cheesy one is just trying to get a rise out of you.

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

Stop taking the bait, HPD. The cheesy one is just trying to get a rise out of you.

HPD's inability to not take the bait is why I voted him the biggest Homer....

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Stop taking the bait, HPD. The cheesy one is just trying to get a rise out of you.

I know, I know, but doesn't it bother anyone that he says he skied there and never did? Why? To impress who?

I guess I should ask myself why do I care?

BS artists just rub me the wrong way.

 

[2knees]

I know, I know, but doesn't it bother anyone that he says he skied there and never did? Why? To impress who?

I guess I should ask myself why do I care?

BS artists just rub me the wrong way.

i think he says alot of things that are factually challenged.