jrmagic
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And WTF is that supposed to mean?? You should stick to places high on the douchebag spectrum.
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3 most personally overrated ski areas you have skied.
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And WTF is that supposed to mean?? You should stick to places high on the douchebag spectrum.
Jully
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I'm rarely disappointed by resorts, and maybe I hyped it up too much in my head, but I was really disappointed by Sunday River every time. Yes there's an amazing diversity of trails on the different peaks, but the runs themselves I find too short.
The actual trip down the mountain at SR feels shorter than places like Shawnee and Mt. Abrams nextdoor.
The actual trip down the mountain at SR feels shorter than places like Shawnee and Mt. Abrams nextdoor.
Whitey
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1) Waterville
2) Sunday River
3) Whiteface
Waterville is self explanatory, but I think it's all Boston day trippers and condo owners now anyway. How often do you hear people on this board saying they are going to Waterville? Skied there probably 20 days over the last 30 yrs. Just never really did it for me on any of those days.
SR is long but not tall. I've skied there a lot but I've never really bought it as a great northeast ski area. If it weren't for vouchers, & friends who have places in the area, I would never ski SR over Sugarloaf or Saddleback. I just find those mountains so much more interesting.
Whiteface: Good - Big, steep, a lot of history. Skied there 3 yrs in a row now. Bad - Run down facilities, vaguely uninteresting runs, tons of Joeys from NY as well as snowboarders who drive there in Honda Civics with smoked glass and subwoofers and aren't as good as they think they are (sorry, my masshole lineage is rearing it's ugly head). Lacking for bump runs, always icy. Given its location and size it should have a lot more gladed runs and other stuff. The glades they do have are almost always closed. Should be a "go to" place for hardcore northeast skiers, it's not. What else do you need know?
2) Sunday River
3) Whiteface
Waterville is self explanatory, but I think it's all Boston day trippers and condo owners now anyway. How often do you hear people on this board saying they are going to Waterville? Skied there probably 20 days over the last 30 yrs. Just never really did it for me on any of those days.
SR is long but not tall. I've skied there a lot but I've never really bought it as a great northeast ski area. If it weren't for vouchers, & friends who have places in the area, I would never ski SR over Sugarloaf or Saddleback. I just find those mountains so much more interesting.
Whiteface: Good - Big, steep, a lot of history. Skied there 3 yrs in a row now. Bad - Run down facilities, vaguely uninteresting runs, tons of Joeys from NY as well as snowboarders who drive there in Honda Civics with smoked glass and subwoofers and aren't as good as they think they are (sorry, my masshole lineage is rearing it's ugly head). Lacking for bump runs, always icy. Given its location and size it should have a lot more gladed runs and other stuff. The glades they do have are almost always closed. Should be a "go to" place for hardcore northeast skiers, it's not. What else do you need know?
Really jerk thing to say.
VTKilarney
Well-known member
I wasn't trying to be funny. Having an immediate family member with autism, it is definitely a compelling place for them to ski. My family member has a very hard time on lifts when people they do not know are on the same chair. The physical proximity probably has a lot to do with it. I can assure you that they would feel MUCH more comfortable at MRG knowing that they don't have to worry about this. It is actually an issue that gives them a LOT of anxiety when they ski.
As someone who struggles with these issues every day, I take offense to your calling me a "jerk" for thinking about these concepts. They may not matter to you, but they do to me. If you recall, I recently criticized a person at Burke who was insisting that the lift attendant bunch people up when there was no need to do so. That comment wasn't a merely theoretical comment.
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goldsbar
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Killington - Not saying it's a bad place. This goes back 25+ years to high school for me. Everyone talked about "VW-sized bumps" and other sorts of death defying tales. I only made it there a couple of times as a kid and it was generally early season when a lot of stuff wasn't open. Fast forward to a couple of years ago when I finally got back and... real vertical was disappointing, the mighty Outer Limits wasn't that mighty, trails were crowded. Probably was a lot harder back in the days of skinny skis and crappy snow making.
Steamboat - second trip out West. First was Jackson Hole. Just didn't compare.
Just a guess - Jay - the place gets so much hype on this forum. Call me a skeptic. I'll never know as I'm unlikely to make the drive from NJ when I can fly to Utah in the same time.
Steamboat - second trip out West. First was Jackson Hole. Just didn't compare.
Just a guess - Jay - the place gets so much hype on this forum. Call me a skeptic. I'll never know as I'm unlikely to make the drive from NJ when I can fly to Utah in the same time.
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1) Killington because it has so many loud fanboys and because of the crowds, lack of true vertical, traverses, etc.
2) Vail because of the lack of steep terrain and because the Back Bowls face south which is really bad for preserving good snow quality.
3) I know this one might be a little controversial, but Smugglers Notch because the lift lines and time spent on the lifts is just way too long. Love the terrain there, but it's hard to justify going back without taking time off work.
2) Vail because of the lack of steep terrain and because the Back Bowls face south which is really bad for preserving good snow quality.
3) I know this one might be a little controversial, but Smugglers Notch because the lift lines and time spent on the lifts is just way too long. Love the terrain there, but it's hard to justify going back without taking time off work.
I didn't call you a jerk, I said it was a jerk thing to say. There is a difference.
And regardless of your personal situation I do think your comment read poorly to a casual observer. I personally would never say a certain ski area is a good place for someone with (insert development challenge here) to ski. It singles that group of people out. Not cool.
I wasn't the only one who read your comment that way.
Scruffy
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Sorry, but your first post was severely poorly written if you meant as you stated in your second post.
Scruffy
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Rude? Not friendly? Not welcoming? That's describes the antithesis of the place .. weird.
VTKilarney
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St. Bear
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Well, some snowboarders may feel differently.
Whiteface: long but boring "tilted ironing board"
Butternut: people say they like it but it is flatter than a pancake
Snowbird: Probably personal experience because it does have some great terrain. However, I have skied there at least 8 or so days over the years and in every trip to Utah I have found better snow next door plus there is a bit of the UT version of the NY/NJ testosterone fueled Joey thing going over there as well.
Funny how we all like and dislike different places. I have never found MRG to be other than welcoming. Unlike a previous poster I love Whitefish and am considering moving there in a few years.
Regarding Jay Peak - more than any other area is hit or miss. Hit it on a powder day and it is the best.
Butternut: people say they like it but it is flatter than a pancake
Snowbird: Probably personal experience because it does have some great terrain. However, I have skied there at least 8 or so days over the years and in every trip to Utah I have found better snow next door plus there is a bit of the UT version of the NY/NJ testosterone fueled Joey thing going over there as well.
Funny how we all like and dislike different places. I have never found MRG to be other than welcoming. Unlike a previous poster I love Whitefish and am considering moving there in a few years.
Regarding Jay Peak - more than any other area is hit or miss. Hit it on a powder day and it is the best.
Scruffy
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But, you had to have known that going in, right? That's like going to an orgy, when you don't like sex, and then complaining that there was only sex at that party
I still don't understand why people consider Kmart overrated. The terrain is fantastic, the place is so easy to navigate if you just look at a map!!! And it has the most selection than anyone else.
My opinion on overrated:
1.) Stowe: by far the most overrated. The terrain doesn't stand out to me at all, very bland and a very crappy lay out. It's over 100 dollars just for a day ticket now. I'll stick with Bolton and sugarbush.
2.) Sunday River: very fun mountain but the place sucks to navigate. Tons of traffic on certain trails and the whole resort seems a little bit run down. The lodges are in horrible shape.
3.) Waterville Valley: really just "meh". Very small and a total cluster f*** on busy days. The terrain is nothing special and kinda boring.
My opinion on overrated:
1.) Stowe: by far the most overrated. The terrain doesn't stand out to me at all, very bland and a very crappy lay out. It's over 100 dollars just for a day ticket now. I'll stick with Bolton and sugarbush.
2.) Sunday River: very fun mountain but the place sucks to navigate. Tons of traffic on certain trails and the whole resort seems a little bit run down. The lodges are in horrible shape.
3.) Waterville Valley: really just "meh". Very small and a total cluster f*** on busy days. The terrain is nothing special and kinda boring.
abc
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Funny you say you'll stick with Bolton/Sugarbush rather than stick with Kmart!
Everything you like and dislike about Kmart and Stowe are exactly the same thing. Both have some great terrain. Both are large enough that it's not always easy to navigate. Both are expensive though neither is too different from their neighbors. But somehow you favor K over Stowe.
Stowe tend to have better condition due to it being further north. And also less crowded also due to it being further away from the population center. While I prefer Stowe over K, I still like both. I think both of them live up to their reputation quite nicely. Neither are overrated nor underrated.
VTKilarney
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My complaint with Whitefish is that the snow is much more Pacific Northwest like than Rocky Mountain like. The Flathead Valley can be rather warm and wet, and the snow on the mountain can be the product of that. It's a great town, and a pretty darn good mountain (if you ignore the access road), but I was very underwhelmed with the snow quality. And this is after making multiple trips there because I had family in the area.
There are better places in Montana. Check out Red Lodge. It's an adorable town on the doorstep of Yellowstone National Park with a very underrated ski area.
I spent a great 3 days at Red Lodge back in the 90's! A work buddy from back in the day (who used to work with Les Otten at K. in an even earlier day) has some land out there and we hit it just right with a 2+ foot storm. We were planning on driving up to Big Sky but stayed put in Red Lodge. I have also skied Big Sky. Thinking about it, I have been to Montana 3 times for ski trips and each time I skied powder pretty much every day!!!
We had great snow at Whitefish! I really like the Flathead Valley as well...and Glacier Nat. Park. WF also has a flowy and growing network of MTB trails starting about a mile outside of town.
We had great snow at Whitefish! I really like the Flathead Valley as well...and Glacier Nat. Park. WF also has a flowy and growing network of MTB trails starting about a mile outside of town.
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