3 most personally overrated ski areas you have skied.

[abc]

1. Who rates Okemo highly?
2. Who rates Waterville highly?

Okemo and Waterville did, but couldn't deliver.

5. If Cannon "lived up to it's reputation" how is that being overrated?

It lives up to ONE of its reputation. I read that it implies it did NOT live up to (the more positive) reputations.

(I've never ski Cannon in mid-winter so can't attest to that ferocious reputation. But that's how anyone would read that sentence)

 

[Grizzly Adams]

1. Who rates Okemo highly?

used to take family trips to Okemo when I was younger they were actually pretty great, flash forward to two weekends ago the fam decided to meet up for a weekend, it was crowded beyond belief, can still see why its popular for families with young kids but if youre trying to do some serious skiing or riding my advice is to seek alternative locales, definitely shouldve included it on my original list

 

[Smellytele]

I have been pondering my answer to this and still having a hard time putting my mind around this one. By whom is the ski areas overrated by? For the most part most places are what they are said to be by the people I know even by what people on here for the most say they are. I haven't been to a ski area and expected more than what I got. I have been to ski areas and have gotten more than I expected. I have also been disappointed by conditions.

 

[Cannonball]

Okemo and Waterville did, but couldn't deliver.


It lives up to ONE of its reputation. I read that it implies it did NOT live up to (the more positive) reputations.

(I've never ski Cannon in mid-winter so can't attest to that ferocious reputation. But that's how anyone would read that sentence)

Haha, gotcha! So "rated" means how the resorts portray themselves? Then yes I agree, Okemo and WV (and every other resort on the planet) are overrated relative to how they rate themselves.

 

[xlr8r]

I'm not sure you know what overrated means.

1. Who rates Okemo highly?
2. Who rates Waterville highly?
5. If Cannon "lived up to it's reputation" how is that being overrated?

Weren't the ground rules set that this is based on your own personal expectations of each mountain, that is what I based my opinions on. Not the general consensus of whats overrated. These are based on my expectations.

1. Plenty of people, it is one of if not the most popular mountain in the east. As stated, I thought it would be awesome because it is big, has nice facilities and is well run. Only after going there a few times now do I realize it sucks because of the terrain. I used to care more about size and facilities more than terrain quality.
2. As stated, tons my classmates seemed to go to WV growing up and always bragged about the place
5. I did not fully explain this one as it was outside my top three. I knew of its reputation, but a lot of people on this board and other boards always raved about Cannon. And I really enjoyed my first few days there so I initially thought the stereotype was wrong and thought Cannon was great. But my last few visits have been nothing but ice when other areas around it have had good conditions. Now I do not go there as I have realized it is just too inconsistent weather and conditions wise. In other words I expected Cannon to be one of if not the best places in NH and initially I thought it was, but now I prefer Ragged and Loon.

 

[Cannonball]

Weren't the ground rules set that this is based on your own personal expectations of each mountain, that is what I based my opinions on. Not the general consensus of whats overrated. These are based on my expectations.

1. Plenty of people, it is one of if not the most popular mountain in the east. As stated, I thought it would be awesome because it is big, has nice facilities and is well run. Only after going there a few times now do I realize it sucks because of the terrain. I used to care more about size and facilities more than terrain quality.
2. As stated, tons my classmates seemed to go to WV growing up and always bragged about the place
5. I did not fully explain this one as it was outside my top three. I knew of its reputation, but a lot of people on this board and other boards always raved about Cannon. And I really enjoyed my first few days there so I initially thought the stereotype was wrong and thought Cannon was great. But my last few visits have been nothing but ice when other areas around it have had good conditions. Now I do not go there as I have realized it is just too inconsistent weather and conditions wise. In other words I expected Cannon to be one of if not the best places in NH and initially I thought it was, but now I prefer Ragged and Loon.

Fair enough. Cannon is not Ragged or Loon. If anyone lead you to believe that it is, shame on them.

 

[xlr8r]

Fair enough. Cannon is not Ragged or Loon. If anyone lead you to believe that it is, shame on them.

Nobody is saying that. Just stating my current preferences. Ragged Loon and Cannon are not really alike much at all. But most people here think Cannon is the best in NH (or Wildcat), initially I did too.

 

[EPB]

Your lack of comprehension is alarming, and you trying to explain something to me is comical.

Self reflect?

Idiot.

Just a word of advice - you're doing yourself no favors trying coming off as competent with these persistent swipes and over-the-top attempts to self aggrandize.

The issue here is that in pretty short order, VTKilarney owned up to the fact that what he said was received really poorly and did not capture his intentions properly. We all saw the comment, we all saw him acknowledge it was poorly worded and there's nothing else to it. You've been beating a dead horse here for pages on end.

I can't even begin to understand what provokes someone (who appears to be a grown man if you are who is pictured in the green jacket in your avatar) to be seemingly unable to let this go, but if you're interested in exuding any amount of credibility here, I'd suggest you let it go.

 

[Cannonball]

Nobody is saying that. Just stating my current preferences. Ragged Loon and Cannon are not really alike much at all. But most people here think Cannon is the best in NH (or Wildcat), initially I did too.

I'm not arguing in favor of Cannon. It's reputation is cold, icy, windy, cloudy, poor visibility, poorly run. That is 100% accurate. I'm not being facetious. That's it's reputation and it's well deserved. What I don't understand is how you can find it to be exactly what it's reputation is....and consider that overrated.

Cannon's positive reputation is for minimal crowds, hidden stashes, elevation, lack of grooming, tight trees, windy wind swept trails. If you didn't find these things to be true then it would be overrated.

Edit: I'm curious what you expected to get that you didn't.

 

[xlr8r]

I'm not arguing in favor of Cannon. It's reputation is cold, icy, windy, cloudy, poor visibility, poorly run. That is 100% accurate. I'm not being facetious. That's it's reputation and it's well deserved. What I don't understand is how you can find it to be exactly what it's reputation is....and consider that overrated.

Cannon's positive reputation is for minimal crowds, hidden stashes, elevation, lack of grooming, tight trees, windy wind swept trails. If you didn't find these things to be true then it would be overrated.

Just give it up, you keep saying you don't understand me, when all I am doing is stating an opinion. I did not use the word "reputation" in my original post, I used "sterotype". Look it up they do not mean the same thing.

I am done trying to defend my opinion.

 

[Cannonball]

Just give it up, you keep saying you don't understand me, when all I am doing is stating an opinion. I did not use the word "reputation" in my original post, I used "sterotype". Look it up they do not mean the same thing.

I am done trying to defend my opinion.

You're right, my bad. Didn't mean to come off as attacking your opinion or contribution. Was just literally trying to understand what your expectation was. But you're right the whole thing is only about personal experience anyway.

FWIW, several of the place you mentioned (Okemo, Mount Snow, WV) are places that I really don't love either. And for all the reasons you mentioned. I guess I just always asummed those traits were exactly their reputation so I didn't consider them overrated, I considered them accurately rated. Semantics.

 

[xlr8r]

You're right, my bad. Didn't mean to come off as attacking your opinion or contribution. Was just literally trying to understand what your expectation was. But you're right the whole thing is only about personal experience anyway.

FWIW, several of the place you mentioned (Okemo, Mount Snow, WV) are places that I really don't love either. And for all the reasons you mentioned. I guess I just always asummed those traits were exactly their reputation so I didn't consider them overrated, I considered them accurately rated. Semantics.

Ok we're cool now, it was only 5th on my list anyway.

 

[abc]

Haha, gotcha! So "rated" means how the resorts portray themselves? Then yes I agree, Okemo and WV (and every other resort on the planet) are overrated relative to how they rate themselves.

Almost all mountains overrate their claim. But many underrates in areas they don't make claim of!

Some mountains fail by far more of their claim than others. And some mountains fail in almost all aspects. That's what makes them appear on the top 3 of people's list.

 

[j law]

"Overrated" is relative to your own perceptions... So it's tough for anyone to be wrong in their opinion.

That said, our perception of a ski area is usually based on a small number of visits... Or 1 total visit. And the perception is mostly influenced on the conditions you've had there. Hit a powder day almost anywhere and you probably have a good perception of the resort.

Case in point, I was at Gore on Jan. 1st, 2000 (tough to forget where you were on Y2K). It sucked... There was no snow and all the expert terrain was closed. I never considered going back... Until this time last year the stars aligned and they had two 20 inch days in a row and I had a perfect 10 day in the glades... And now I can't wait to ski Burnt Ridge again!

My top 3
Whiteface - not as big as you would expect and the terrain was somewhat limited. Major disappointment my first and second times even though I hit powder days.

Okemo - just a boring mountain... I know, I know, who is hyping it? I just have never had a great day there.

Pico - maybe it's bc the locals knew where to get the powder and I have been bummed both times that everything was skied off before I knew it.

On a positive note, my expectations were greatly exceeded by Magic and Jay... Though I love powder in the trees and really only ski in the east when the conditions are nearly perfect. Yeah, I'm a snow snob.

I also have come to love Killington because I learned it... No need to traverse all day if you know where you are going!





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[BeefyBoy50]

This isn't a claim of over-rated, I think, because I still enjoyed my trip-
Jackson Hole seemed less steep to me than everyone claimed (no, I didn't ski Corbet's, it was closed all week, as was most of the hike-to terrain and the backcountry).
Granted, the blue square "intermediate" runs I skied there were more difficult than any blue square runs I have ever skied, with most of them deserving black diamond status at any other ski area in the West. Similarly, some of the black diamonds were difficult for their classification. Ignoring this, however, and considering the way the mountain is known as the most difficult ski area in the US bar none, I was a little disappointed in the in-bounds, open extreme terrain. It seems to me that Squaw, Snowbird, and Crested Butte, maybe even Big Sky as well, have more lift accessible double-black diamond, shit-your pants type terrain. The one or two runs that are difficult to ski and open more rarely than I expected (Corbets, Alta Zero, S&S couloir) comprise maybe 10 acres in total- less than 1% of the total ski area. Further, these runs are little more than jump and pray cliff ledges but are not sustained, 50 degree pitches like I was lead to believe. Don't question, these runs are still incredibly difficult and in all but the best conditions far beyond my ability level, but the mountain IMO didn't lead up to its reputation. There seemed to be only a few zones offering this type of terrain on the mountain: the chutes near the summit, the cliffs under Thunder, the cliffs under Sublette, the cliffs in the bowl to lookers left of Sublette, and small portions of the Hobacks area.

In comparison, every single lift at Snowbird (and Squaw for that matter) has some zone that only the best skiers can navigate, and many of those lifts have multiple of these zones. The Cirque at Snowbird is a massive, sustained and steep pitch area that isn't really paralleled at Jackson (at least inbounds. I know out of bounds at Jackson Hole, or in sidebounds terrain, it is a completely different story). Crested and Big Sky also have massive zones of continuous difficult terrain (North Face, A-Z Chutes).

I don't want the fact that I skied these other mountains with powder but JHole when there was no real fresh snow for 2 weeks to cloud my judgment. I still think it is an excellent mountain and I definitely enjoyed it, but that doesn't mean it isn't overrated.

 

[benski]

1. Who rates Okemo highly?

Some of my friends rate okemo very highly. They thought it is the biggest, tallest mountain in vt and don't know there are steeper mountains in vt. So wrong. They still think all east coast mountains are flat like okemo.


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[MMP]

Just a word of advice...........but if you're interested in exuding any amount of credibility here, I'd suggest you let it go.

Insert your advice where vtk has his head.
Credibility? With you? All set.

 

[deadheadskier]

MMP give it at rest. He admitted his fault with his statement. That's enough

No one wants for this to keep going and muck up the topic further.

Please stop

 

[MMP]

MMP give it at rest. He admitted his fault with his statement. That's enough

No one wants for this to keep going and muck up the topic further.

Please stop

In honor of Phil's birthday, ok

(Who doesn't love MRG? Weird)

 

[deadheadskier]

Well Phil's birthday was Sunday, but thanks. :lol: