Bin Ladin dead!

[riverc0il]

"We don't need to spike the football."
PRESIDENT OBAMA, on his decision to not release photographs of Osama bin Laden's corpse.

LOL. Our Pres has a way with words. His stand up last week was great.

You have to ask yourself - how many more will die if the photos are shown...

i bet a shtiload...

Yup. I think this is the most important thing. No need to stoke the fires.

I'm kidding, but it's a no win situation. Don't release them and people will suspect it's fake, release them and they'll just say the photo's are fake. I guess they figured screw the conspiracy theorist who won't be happy with whatever we do and just try not to incite more violence in the middle east. Personally I'd like to see them, but I'm not making the decisions.

On the flip side, they might as well release them now. They are just going to release them in two years any ways when Donald Trump won't shut up about it not being real without seeing the FULL documentation. :razz:

 

[Glenn]

Also,

LMAO! Great graphic! So true.

 

[SkiFanE]

As the week passes and people are bitching about the details and shoulda, woulda, coulda's all I can think is: WOW...USA kicks Ass. Big Time. All the technology invented here, and used on the mission is impressive. The SEALS training. The great snooping by CIA. Great decisions by the Pres.

 

[jack97]

As the week passes and people are bitching about the details and shoulda, woulda, coulda's all I can think is: WOW...USA kicks Ass. Big Time. All the technology invented here, and used on the mission is impressive. The SEALS training. The great snooping by CIA. Great decisions by the Pres.

Giving up the stealth heli hurts..... what ever is left is going to China.

From the looks of it, this was def a seek and destroy mission. Could have done it with a drone but the prez wanted boots on the ground to verify he was dead.

 

[dmc]

Giving up the stealth heli hurts..... what ever is left is going to China.

From the looks of it, this was def a seek and destroy mission. Could have done it with a drone but the prez wanted boots on the ground to verify he was dead.

Well that and all the intel - friggin priceless!!!.

 

[jack97]

Well that and all the intel - friggin priceless!!!.

for sure.... drones or a cruise missile would have definitely destroyed all the info he had with him.

 

[dmc]

for sure.... drones or a cruise missile would have definitely destroyed all the info he had with him.

We needed to go there.. And apparently we were watching for a while - right under Pakistan's noses...

 

[mondeo]

Giving up the stealth heli hurts..... what ever is left is going to China.

From the looks of it, this was def a seek and destroy mission. Could have done it with a drone but the prez wanted boots on the ground to verify he was dead.

Wasn't a stealth helicopter, it was a lightly modified Blackhawk. The technology isn't anything different than what goes into every F-16C/D, which Pakistan has had for a few years now. It wasn't even a classified program.

 

[gmcunni]

Wasn't a stealth helicopter, it was a lightly modified Blackhawk. The technology isn't anything different than what goes into every F-16C/D, which Pakistan has had for a few years now. It wasn't even a classified program.

Stealth Black Hawk Helicopters
Photographs sold to Reuters revealed the remains of a top secret Black Hawk stealth helicopter sporting several modifications, a machine that allowed the U.S. team to infiltrate Pakistani undetected. Designed for special forces missions, these choppers can carry up to 11 soldiers and come with three types of guns: mini, chain, and gatling.
The tail design of the helicopter seen in these photos shows an unusual assembly, possibly hinting at a type of previously-unknown stealth capability, experts said.
"It was a secretly developed stealth helicopter, probably a highly modified version of an H-60 Blackhawk," reported Bill Sweetman on Aviation Week’s Ares blog. "The helicopter's tail features stealth-configured shapes on the boom and tip fairings, swept stabilizers and a "dishpan" cover over a non-standard five-or-six-blade tail rotor. It has a silver-loaded infra-red suppression finish similar to that seen on some V-22s."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011...-technologies-helped-bin-laden/#ixzz1LcZX0rrM

 

[thetrailboss]

Man do I love the National Enquirer. This week's headline: "HIGH ON HEROIN & RATTED OUT BY WIFE: OSAMA BIN LADEN'S FINAL MINUTES."

 

[mondeo]

Stealth Black Hawk Helicopters
Photographs sold to Reuters revealed the remains of a top secret Black Hawk stealth helicopter sporting several modifications, a machine that allowed the U.S. team to infiltrate Pakistani undetected. Designed for special forces missions, these choppers can carry up to 11 soldiers and come with three types of guns: mini, chain, and gatling.
The tail design of the helicopter seen in these photos shows an unusual assembly, possibly hinting at a type of previously-unknown stealth capability, experts said.
"It was a secretly developed stealth helicopter, probably a highly modified version of an H-60 Blackhawk," reported Bill Sweetman on Aviation Week’s Ares blog. "The helicopter's tail features stealth-configured shapes on the boom and tip fairings, swept stabilizers and a "dishpan" cover over a non-standard five-or-six-blade tail rotor. It has a silver-loaded infra-red suppression finish similar to that seen on some V-22s."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011...-technologies-helped-bin-laden/#ixzz1LcZX0rrM

Bill Sweetman is full of shit, he loves taking stuff without a public explanation and turing it into something fantastic. Just like he pretty much single handedly took a slip-up in a Reagan speech that referred to the Aurora program (more commonly known as the B-2) and invented a Mach 5 reconnaissance plane that, quite simply, doesn't exist.

http://www.flightglobal.com/article...-raid-reveals-us-armys-helicopter-secret.html

The bolt-on kits are not classified, but they have been kept secret within the special operations community for as long as two decades.

Big, big difference between top secret and not classified.

The stealth helicopter theory just doesn't make sense. The RAH-66 is how you do stealth in a helicopter. And it was a public program at least 15 years ago, from what I can tell it was public from its inception in the 80s. The story from Flight is much more realistic. Shield the radar-ugly tail rotor hub. Facet the tail boom. Coat the windscreen with some gold. No method which hasn't been fundamentally in the public domain for the last 20 years, since the F-117 was declassified (and fundamentally, since the Russian scientist wrote that paper in the 60s.) No technology any different than what's in the F-16C and F/A-18E. Why would you have a black program for a mildly modified Blackhawk incorporating a few known stealth techniques? Way to much cost to justify no benefit.

And it's a standard Blackhawk rotor, other than the cover. What no one has apparently put enough thought into is that only 4 blades are shown. Look at where the blades cross the hub shield, there's a small cut-out. The two blades in the fore front are very clearly where they're supposed to be, without any blades missing. There is no way in hell there's a blade missing elsewhere, that would create a massive imbalance and destroy the hub pretty quickly. The one closest to the ground is bent or broken at the hub, the other three have 90 degree seperation that just looks a little funky because of the angle. Try covering top blade, the other two now look much more like they're directly opposed. Cover the rear, you can sorta see the other two are 90 degrees apart.

 

[jack97]

lots of ways stealth tech can be defined other than radar sig.....

article below talks about mods for infrared sig, sound muffling...

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gene...aden Raid May Have Exposed Stealth Helicopter

 

[mondeo]

lots of ways stealth tech can be defined other than radar sig.....

article below talks about mods for infrared sig, sound muffling...

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gene...aden Raid May Have Exposed Stealth Helicopter

Yes, but covering up the tail rotor hub doesn't do anything for sound or IR. That's pure radar. All the sound from helicopters comes from the rotors, and despite what Sweetman wants to say, the tail rotor itself was pretty much stock.

Again, Bill Sweetman is not a credible source of information. He's more speculative than the National Inquirer.

 

[Nick]

Man do I love the National Enquirer. This week's headline: "HIGH ON HEROIN & RATTED OUT BY WIFE: OSAMA BIN LADEN'S FINAL MINUTES."

:lol:

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