with this new lift burke will keep on getting customers from jay peak for sure. jay is a zoo and the extra few inches jay gets hardly make it worth the hassle spending good amount of your day in lift line with a bunch of canadians. only rivercoil and his alpine zone friends could care but 99% of skiers/ riders rather have an enoyable day in a technical and diverse mt like burke than mob scene @ j with pretty much the same terrain and two extra inches of snow. plus jay is the biggest liar there is when reporting snow, everybdy knows it. burke could make their snow total 50% more if they used the jay stick. not sure why burke under reports but they do. jay and stowe on the other hand have a lot at stake and if the economy takes another dive they would have hoped they stayed nimble.
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Burke submits act 250 application for new Lift
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with this new lift burke will keep on getting customers from jay peak for sure. jay is a zoo and the extra few inches jay gets hardly make it worth the hassle spending good amount of your day in lift line with a bunch of canadians. only rivercoil and his alpine zone friends could care but 99% of skiers/ riders rather have an enoyable day in a technical and diverse mt like burke than mob scene @ j with pretty much the same terrain and two extra inches of snow. plus jay is the biggest liar there is when reporting snow, everybdy knows it. burke could make their snow total 50% more if they used the jay stick. not sure why burke under reports but they do. jay and stowe on the other hand have a lot at stake and if the economy takes another dive they would have hoped they stayed nimble.
extra few inches per storm over the course of the season adds up to quite a lot.
same terrain? really?
amusing post. you trash Jay and Stowe for their exaggerations with some pretty heavy exaggerating yourself.
same terrain? really?
amusing post. you trash Jay and Stowe for their exaggerations with some pretty heavy exaggerating yourself.
yeah they add up but you wont ski on them cuz its a mob scene, plus jay lies so you never know. they say oh we got 6-14 inches and then they count the 14 for their season total and peeps like you fall for it, right. to me the terrain is very similar, infact burkes glades are better than stowe and pretty much the same as j. this is my opinion not an exaggeration, if you dont like you know what 2 do deadhead.
I like Burke a lot. 9 times out of 10 on a weekend, I'd take it over Jay and Stowe due to the crowding you speak of.
That said, the terrain at Burke doesn't come CLOSE to what's on Mansfield or Jay. Both are two to three times the size of Burke when you count slack country. Burke isn't in the same league in terms of steeps. They do indeed get significantly more snow than Burke and hold onto their base much longer due to elevation difference.
and you're right, I'm a total sucker when it comes to snow reports.
and your wording was they have pretty much the same terrain. That IS an exaggeration. You can like the terrain more and that's fine and would be your opinion. But saying the terrain is the same is completely false.
That said, the terrain at Burke doesn't come CLOSE to what's on Mansfield or Jay. Both are two to three times the size of Burke when you count slack country. Burke isn't in the same league in terms of steeps. They do indeed get significantly more snow than Burke and hold onto their base much longer due to elevation difference.
and you're right, I'm a total sucker when it comes to snow reports.
and your wording was they have pretty much the same terrain. That IS an exaggeration. You can like the terrain more and that's fine and would be your opinion. But saying the terrain is the same is completely false.
riverc0il
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It is kind of amusing having that type of response thrown at me considering I have been an online Burke homer since I first skied there almost ten years ago. So you are preaching to the choir. Yet I also am a former season pass holder at Jay. But I play the field now. So I get quite familiar with a lot of different mountains and what makes each of them special in their own special way.
Calling Jay a "zoo" is pretty subjective (and perhaps relative to your experience with different areas, I have reassessed my definition of a zoo this season after having skied Mount Snow and Okemo). Suggesting that Jay and Burke are equivalent in snow totals if they "used the same ruler" is ridiculous and suggests vendetta or agenda or both. Look at the snow totals from last year as an example of the difference. Comparing Burke to Jay in regards to snowfall totals does no favors to public perception of Burke, that is not what makes Burke a special mountain.
I don't really see Jay and Burke competing much for skier visits. So even with a HSQ, Burke may steal a few visits from Jay. But Jay is already likely bumping visits due to its own enhancements. Very much a different market. Burke is much more likely to steal visits from Boston metro I-93 types along with some ME, RI, and CT. I don't see Burke being too competitive in the Montreal, Burlington, or NYC/Jersey markets even with the new lift. One thing is for sure though... they will need to get rid of that five minute guarantee on weekends and the mountain is going to feel a lot more crowded with a HSQ. People will come/return for it.
riverc0il
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Burke's terrain is definitely not similar to either Jay or Stowe. But I do enjoy Burke's in boundary glades more than Stowe's in boundary glades. With Jay vs Burke on glades, it depends on the snow. If Burke has the snow, I do enjoy Burke's glades overall better than Jay's. But the problem there is Burke's glades can be crusty when Jay's are PP due to the snowfall difference (a fact). So it depends on conditions for me.
Why the hostility? Can't share your opinion and debate the pros and cons without telling someone what to do?
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RootDKJ
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Burke thread is heating up like a Killington thread 
from_the_NEK
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Burke thread is heating up like a Killington thread
Does that mean there has to be a ski off?
RootDKJ
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kingdom-tele
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In the spirit of Burke though - the ski off should also include a drink off immediately following the ski off :smile:
Masskier
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Finally an article in today's Caledonian Record
from_the_NEK
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5 Minute photochop of the new liftline: :smile:
Note this was what Burke looked like closing day.
Note this was what Burke looked like closing day.
RootDKJ
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Why is the liftline in the middle of the parking lot?
Take a look at the plan. They are moving some of the parking lot and putting the base of the new HSQ in the field below MidBurke.
from_the_NEK
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RootDKJ
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Nice! :idea: :beer:Drive-in drive-out access
Zand
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Still sad that they're taking away a good glade (both next to upper Warren's as well as Little Chief) but it'll be worth it in the end if this is the extent of what they do. Also would make a nice new liftline and I bet some lines will open up in the woods on either side anyway. And 7 less minutes on the lift sounds good too.
I can't find it, do you have a link?. That publication is a joke btw.
Masskier
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You have to subscribe to the on-line version of the paper in order to read it.
According to the Act 250 database, the project has been approved.
Can anyone confirm if work is beginning? This is a big deal for Burke and Burke skiers and the realization of a dream that is decades in the making!
Can anyone confirm if work is beginning? This is a big deal for Burke and Burke skiers and the realization of a dream that is decades in the making!
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