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COVID concerns in the Northeast

Puck it

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A peer reviewed study has shown that lockdowns have “no clear, significant beneficial effect”. Pardon the source for the article. Other than Fox News, I couldn't find any coverage from the mainstream media when I Googled it.

The actual paper can be found here:


I seem to recall some people saying that we need to, "listen to the science."
There are multiple papers. I think 20-30 from around the world. Ivor Cummins out of Ireland has posting them on his pages. It is all about the optics have you not learned that.
 

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It helps to have a more successful approach when you have inside knowledge of the virus as you're willingly allowing it to spread around the globe while taking extreme precautions in your own country and lying about it to the rest of the world
All China had to do post lockdown to make it look to the world that their lockdown worked was lower the CT threshold of the tests and shazam! the case count plummets! :rolleyes:
China can then sell the lockdown BS narrative to the rest of the world gullible enough to believe the communist chinese party.
 
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All China had to do post lockdown to make it look to the world that their lockdown worked was lower the CT threshold of the tests and shazam! the case count plummets! :rolleyes:
China can then sell the lockdown BS narrative to the rest of the world gullible enough to believe the communist chinese party.
So I guess the part that people don't believe about China is that lockdown works.

But do you believe they HAD A LOCKDOWN in the first place? How long was the lockdown? All we have is the Chinese government said they had a virus, and had a lockdown, then the virus is no more. Which part of that narrative is real and which is not? Sounds like the part people have question is the virus not there any more part. But is there any evidence? Or was there any evidence there WAS a virus in one city only? Maybe the virus wasn't in that city at all? It maybe in a different city? They created this whole drama just for show?

I'm afraid I can't figure out what to believe when it comes to China.

Having said all that, what about Australia? And New Zealand? Seem they got rid of the virus there. Is that real? Did it prove lockdown works or did it prove lockdown is unnecessary?
 

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So I guess the part that people don't believe about China is that lockdown works.

But do you believe they HAD A LOCKDOWN in the first place? How long was the lockdown? All we have is the Chinese government said they had a virus, and had a lockdown, then the virus is no more. Which part of that narrative is real and which is not? Sounds like the part people have question is the virus not there any more part. But is there any evidence? Or was there any evidence there WAS a virus in one city only? Maybe the virus wasn't in that city at all? It maybe in a different city? They created this whole drama just for show?

I'm afraid I can't figure out what to believe when it comes to China.

Having said all that, what about Australia? And New Zealand? Seem they got rid of the virus there. Is that real? Did it prove lockdown works or did it prove lockdown is unnecessary?
China got rid of covid? https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-reports-over-100-covid-013624550.html
 

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you say that a peer reviewed study has shown that lockdowns have “no clear, significant beneficial effect”.

you clipped off part of the conclusion, there's more.

"Implementing any NPIs was associated with significant reductions in case growth in 9 out of
10 study countries, including South Korea and Sweden that implemented only lrNPIs (Spain had a
non-significant effect). After subtracting the epidemic and lrNPI effects, we find no clear, significant
beneficial effect of mrNPIs on case growth in any country."

they're saying that significant reductions in covid growth can be realized with non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs).

they also concluded that mrNPI's didn't offer significant reduction in covid growth rates over lrNPI's.

you quoted the RT headline without reading the actual conclusion in the paper.

here's another article showing the same conclusion, also from stanford.
https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/lives-saved-examination-lockdown-policies
 

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Well one thing for certain about a cold, windy day like today, mask wearing compliance in the liftlines, goes WAY up, even without prompting from the line attendants!!🤣
 

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In Sullivan county NY close to where I live ed from 2017 to 2019

Someone who recently went skiing in the Hudson Valley later tested positive for COVID-19.

Hope cuckoo does not stop ski because of this
 

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I have to imagine that this has happened numerous times. I know of several people who ski my local place that have skied and then tested positive. fortunately I hadn't been in close contact with them, inside or even a chair lift while they were contagious. and no one outside of their families or close contacts have contracted it. so I would say that is a testament to the low likely hood of transmission while skiing.
 

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Not sure it's newsworthy....this is happening daily between employees and guests. See- Hunter mountain patrol- that got attention because it shut down the mountain. But it's happening all over.
 

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its asymptomatic spread that has made this thing so spreadable. Again if you are outside, wearing a mask in line, then skiing is relatively safe.
 

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lol holiday mountain. you can see the top of one of their chairs on the top of route 17 near monticello. my grandma and my uncle used to have bungalows on kutshers property, and we would sometimes ski holiday mountain when we were little kids. its the only place I've ever seen a hasidic skiing. which, come to think of it, that community is rampant with covid and a general sense of science denialism. i avoid those zones of Brooklyn like the, well, plague.
 

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In Sullivan county NY close to where I live ed from 2017 to 2019

Someone who recently went skiing in the Hudson Valley later tested positive for COVID-19.

Hope cuckoo does not stop ski because of this

But... did they really get it from the ski area or somewhere in between or better yet not even on that day. That is where contact tracing falls short. Hard to pin point exactly where some gets infected.
 

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