Do skiier's hate Snowboarders?

[JD]

Is there any real negative impact on a ski area because of snowboarders?
Would you be happy if your home area banned Snowboarding?


The two people who have voiced up about being MRG share holders have both indicated that they see the Ban on Riders as a possitive. This boggles my mind. The serious riders I know are some of the most passionate and spiritual sliders. I love watching them ride. The asthetic of a good snowboarder is beautiful. The only drawback is difiiculty in BC access, but if I still rode lifts, I would definitely do both and on powder days I would be riding, at least for the first few runs..
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Believing in steriotypes and using them to lable an entire group of people is the most egocentric approach to social interaction I can think of.
You?

 

[neil]

It's all stereotypes.

Snowboarders hate snobby skiers who stand around chatting in tight jackets with their poles stuck out.

Skiers hate punk snowboarders with their baggy jackets sitting on the slopes while swearing and listening to "agressive" music.

It's almost as stupid as being a fanboy of a mountain.

 

[JD]

My only negative interaction on the hill since I started skiing 10 years ago have been with teleskiers. One dude hit me with his pole because he thought I was going too fast, one dude told me if I went to ski a certain area that he felt he had claim to..."we were gonna have problems." His name was Justin Ryer actually, and the song on the TR I just posted is about him. Assholes are assholes. There is no way to generalize about people because of their cloths, gear, income, color, nationality, race or gender.

 

[RootDKJ]

No. I hate anyone who doesn't Know the Code and sits down for a chat in the middle of a trail, or disrespects that the downhill person has the right of way.

I realize that most mountains wouldn't be able to run with out both skiers and snowboarders.

 

[dmc]

It's just as unfair to stereotype all skiers as it is to stereotype all snowboarders..

I happen to be an awesome freerider who shares trail space with alpiners and tele.. From New York and Vermont to Jackson Hole and Kashmir.. We get along fine!!!

JD had it right when he said that maybe the ban supporters just don't have friends that ride.. But they will die someday... And new people will take their place...

 

[dmc]

No. I hate anyone who doesn't Know the Code and sits down for a chat in the middle of a trail, or disrespects that the downhill person has the right of way.

I realize that most mountains wouldn't be able to run with out both skiers and snowboarders.

I gotta tell you - much of the reason why snowboarders stop at the top of the hill in the trail to put bindings on is because of skiers stopping...

Snowboards are not easy to hump around with one foot in.. If theres a group of skiers stopped and blocking the benches... A snowboarder will just stop where they lose momentum. I'm going to film this and prove it this winter... If everyone just flowed it would be better...

 

[St. Bear]

Believing in steriotypes and using them to lable an entire group of people is the most egocentric approach to social interaction I can think of.
You?

But this is half of the existence of the internet. Stereotyping and porn.

 

[WWF-VT]

I have two kids - one's a skier and the other is a snowboarder. As far as I can tell they don't hate each other.

 

[Marc]

I hate snowboarders.

And pretty much everyone else too.

 

[ta&idaho]

But this is half of the existence of the internet. Stereotyping and porn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqz3ZHe-pJw

 

[billski]

No. I hate anyone who doesn't Know the Code and sits down for a chat in the middle of a trail, or disrespects that the downhill person has the right of way.

+1
There is equal opportunity for jerks on skis as on boards. I ski with boarders who are in the 60s, some of the most laid-back dudes I know.

I suspect because boarding attracts a disproportionately large number of immature teens, there may be more jerk behavior in the boarding segment. But even if this was true, it's no reason to write off the lot. Now, maybe if we had age discrimination :dunce:

I definitely got the impression that Whaleback is predominately a teen hangout. Hint.

 

[St. Bear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqz3ZHe-pJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo&feature=related

 

[BigJay]

I ride with a skier and a telemarker... 3 guys who share the same passion about riding and sharing the experience on snow... doesn't matter how you slide on your board(s)...

But by the way, can we ban the twin-tipped-hereos with neon jackets and that turn only with their hips witht the tip of their skis barely touching the ground... Way too much of that kind for me...:argue:

Snowboarding was cool in the 90s because it allowed people to bring the sport to a higher level on two fronts at the same time:
- Incredible float in powder
- Being able to arc turns down a groomer

Thanks to that, skiing learned from it and evolved. Now skis are pretty much half-boards with 120mm waist, rockered cambers and tips raised at both ends...

The hardbooters paved the way to carving skis also... When Elan came out with there first parabolic skis, people were happy to lay down turns like the euro-carvers who were striking the trails at every turn.

But now, thanks to this evolution, skiing is cool again. Now, jibbers are mostly on skis again! Up north, we have mostly teles... alpine carvers are the less numbered on the slopes. Fat skis rule and boards are second.

I don't think there is much "hating" going on up here... Closed-minded people stay at MRG... I'm not arguing that the place isn't fun or special... but saying that the ban is a good thing shows signs of being narrow minded. (or jealousy!)

Now, who's in for some pow turns?

 

[RootDKJ]

I gotta tell you - much of the reason why snowboarders stop at the top of the hill in the trail to put bindings on is because of skiers stopping...

Snowboards are not easy to hump around with one foot in.. If theres a group of skiers stopped and blocking the benches... A snowboarder will just stop where they lose momentum. I'm going to film this and prove it this winter... If everyone just flowed it would be better...

Oh agreed. Clearing the landing is a good idea regardless. You never know who's going to come barreling out of control towards you.

 

[jaywbigred]

I've never had a problem with snowboarders as a group or for their clothes or anything like that. I don't notice them most of the time, honestly. To me they are part of the background. Just as much part of the background as other skiers, the trees, the sky, etc...

However, there have been times where individual snowboarders in the bumps have stoked my ire. But bump-line-ire-stokage is not reserved for snowboarders, plenty of skiers ruffle my feathers too. I feel like this (snowboarders in the bumps) has been discussed ad nauseum before.

 

[neil]

I often hear the "they hang around on the trail" from both skiers and snowboarders. It truly is one of the most annoying things people can do in my opinion.

I remember last season at Killington there was this group of 5+ people who were standing across the junction where Skyelark turns to a black run or goes off to High Road. They were taking up so much of the trail there that I had to slow down to turn past them. They were still there as I lapped it straight after!

 

[drjeff]

Snowboarders in general are cool with me

Snowboarders who side slip there way through fresh pow on trails that are over their abilty levels suck! :uzi:

Packs of any type(boarders/park rats/etc) of adolescents/20 somethings who openly and loudly let "f-bombs" while in the liftlines with lots of little kids around REALLY suck!

 

[BigJay]

Snowboarders who side slip there way through fresh pow on trails that are over their abilty levels suck! :uzi:

Applies to skiers as well!

 

[snafu]

I ride with a skier and a telemarker... 3 guys who share the same passion about riding and sharing the experience on snow... doesn't matter how you slide on your board(s)...

But by the way, can we ban the twin-tipped-hereos with neon jackets and that turn only with their hips witht the tip of their skis barely touching the ground... Way too much of that kind for me...:argue:

Snowboarding was cool in the 90s because it allowed people to bring the sport to a higher level on two fronts at the same time:
- Incredible float in powder
- Being able to arc turns down a groomer

Thanks to that, skiing learned from it and evolved. Now skis are pretty much half-boards with 120mm waist, rockered cambers and tips raised at both ends...

The hardbooters paved the way to carving skis also... When Elan came out with there first parabolic skis, people were happy to lay down turns like the euro-carvers who were striking the trails at every turn.

But now, thanks to this evolution, skiing is cool again. Now, jibbers are mostly on skis again! Up north, we have mostly teles... alpine carvers are the less numbered on the slopes. Fat skis rule and boards are second.

I don't think there is much "hating" going on up here... Closed-minded people stay at MRG... I'm not arguing that the place isn't fun or special... but saying that the ban is a good thing shows signs of being narrow minded. (or jealousy!)

Now, who's in for some pow turns?

Seems skiing is cool again for the groms so I think the baggy-pants punk crosses both skiing and riding.

I don't mind sharing the slopes at all with skiiers, teles or what-have-you, I don't like bumps and I think the majority of riders don't like bumps either, so if you see me in a bump field I must have taken a wrong turn

In regard to MRG and the closed-mindedness that forbids snowboards, I have a problem with that. The problem is the negative propaganda excuses coming out of the mouths that benefit from the status quo there - the single chair is not for riders....snowboards scrape too much snow off...riders you just won't enjoy it here...etc. All complete BS. The real reason is that a couple of snowboarders pissed off the old lady there and she made a knee-jerk reaction to the situation. What these other excuses do is try to frame the argument that portrays snowboarding in a negative light, that riding is somehow worse on the mountain than skiing.

 

[RootDKJ]

Applies to skiers as well!

Been there, done that:dunce: