EVs - New Hampshire gets it right

[NYDB]

15 threads of political argument later, this is why Granite1 should have been banned from this forum a long time ago.

Or…..and I know this sounds crazy……the mods could actually move threads that have nothing to do with skiing and snowboarding out of the skiing and snowboarding forum.

and I’m not talking about the inevitable thread drift that occurs where the conversation turns from seasons pass pricing to fed monetary policy. That shit happens. It is the internet after all.

But obvious troll threads about non ski/snowboard activity should be moved, locked or deleted.

On a different note, It is amazing that we have several members here that are so well educated across so many disciplines.

They seem to be authoritative experts on every topic.

To be an expert in vaccines, mining, communicable diseases, monetary policy, political science, real estate, energy, investing. It’s amazing. Just the schooling involved. I’m surprised they have time to ski.

 

[BodeMiller1]

Also, bears.

 

[Hawk]

Quite honestly it has become mind numbing to have any kind of intelegent conversation lately with anybody. LOL I am kind of kidding but I just don't have the patience anymore. Too many people go on the internet, search whatever point of view they think or want to be true and WaLA, there is some "Expert" supporting that truth. The outcome is that it becomes the "truth" to them. Just about every person, political group or faction is guilty of this. It is just the way it's going to be. I have been guilty of this in the past but I am really trying to not listen to the static anymore. It's hard.

 

[Harvey]

I don't get being down on people who capture rain water and compost.

 

[Hawk]

You edited out the plastic straws. What happened.
I love plastic straws by the way.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

There’s a Burger King near me that is like the only 24/7 option, so I end up hitting it late night occasionally. Many milkshakes have been ruined by paper straws. I’m more in favor of the plant based straws that still feel sturdy like plastic

 

[Hawk]

LOL I actualy carry a bad of plastic straws in my car incase I run into flimsy straws. I bought a huge industrial size box of them from a resturaunt supply company in Boston when I heard they were getting banned.

 

[drjeff]

You edited out the plastic straws. What happened.
I love plastic straws by the way.

The paper straws, that come wrapped in plastic, are one of my favorite examples of the loss of true critical thinking skills amongst so many in society these days!

 

[cdskier]

Paper straws are the worst. And yet paper cups work just fine...so why are paper straws so poorly designed?

 

[mister moose]

Paper straws are the worst. And yet paper cups work just fine...so why are paper straws so poorly designed?

Paper straws: Suction causes wall collapse, flexible fibers of no help unless reinforced. High viscosity milkshakes are a real issue.
Paper cups: Load is directed outward not inward, from positive pressure (which is less in magnitude than the suction required for a straw). Here the paper fiber has enough tensile strength to hold the low wall pressure. The cup has a base to aid holding the shape, the straw has no base or other shape holding structure, and a far higher aspect ratio.

Hasn't been a problem since I gave up milkshakes in my 30s and sodas in my 40s.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I recently moved to America & plastic straws & bags at grocery stores are a thing again. Such luxury.

 

[cdskier]

Paper straws: Suction causes wall collapse, flexible fibers of no help unless reinforced. High viscosity milkshakes are a real issue.
Paper cups: Load is directed outward not inward, from positive pressure (which is less in magnitude than the suction required for a straw). Here the paper fiber has enough tensile strength to hold the low wall pressure. The cup has a base to aid holding the shape, the straw has no base or other shape holding structure, and a far higher aspect ratio.

Hasn't been a problem since I gave up milkshakes in my 30s and sodas in my 40s.

A lot of paper cups are also wax coated so liquid doesn't permeate the surface and weaken the fibers. Seems like with straws they just went for the cheapest possible option just to meet requirements to have "paper" straws.

 

[1dog]

At the end of the day all communists, their children and sympathizers have to be killed. Sad but true.

The paper straws, that come wrapped in plastic, are one of my favorite examples of the loss of true critical thinking skills amongst so many in society these days!

And handing out needles for addicts - those paper too? To Hawks point, it wears people down so they don't even look or debate anymore. . . .that's the point.
Paper bags now required in many towns. . . no more reusable plastic bags. . . I recall paper being tree slayers. . . . . guess we fixed that problem.

 

[deadheadskier]

I recently moved to America & plastic straws & bags at grocery stores are a thing again. Such luxury.

We still got bags here in New Hampshire, but the walls are closing in.

Dumbest ordinance ever.

You mean to tell me that here in this store, where 90+% of the products you can buy are packaged at least partially in plastic; I can't put those plastic things in other plastic things? And by the way those other plastic things? I use them for bathroom trash can liners or picking up dog poop, lots of things. So, now I need to buy more plastic things to do those things.

But thanks for helping me up my brown bag Jenga game in the trunk.

 

[Puck it]

Hmm paper straws

Warning: Paper Drinking Straws May Be Harmful to Health and Worse for the Environment Than Plastic Versions

Long-lasting “forever chemicals,” which can cause damaging health issues, were found in 18 out of 20 brands of paper straws. “Eco-friendly” paper drinking straws contain long-lasting and potentially toxic chemicals, a new study has concluded. In the first analysis of its kind in Europe, and on

scitechdaily.com

 

[1dog]

We still got bags here in New Hampshire, but the walls are closing in.

Dumbest ordinance ever.

You mean to tell me that here in this store, where 90+% of the products you can buy are packaged at least partially in plastic; I can't put those plastic things in other plastic things? And by the way those other plastic things? I use them for bathroom trash can liners or picking up dog poop, lots of things. So, now I need to buy more plastic things to do those things.

But thanks for helping me up my brown bag Jenga game in the trunk.

Preach it.

 

[cdskier]

We still got bags here in New Hampshire, but the walls are closing in.

Dumbest ordinance ever.

You mean to tell me that here in this store, where 90+% of the products you can buy are packaged at least partially in plastic; I can't put those plastic things in other plastic things? And by the way those other plastic things? I use them for bathroom trash can liners or picking up dog poop, lots of things. So, now I need to buy more plastic things to do those things.

But thanks for helping me up my brown bag Jenga game in the trunk.

NJ went a step further and even banned paper bags. A bit over the top IMO. I'm waiting for the study that shows how wasteful and harmful all the extra "reusable" bags are that are now piling up in people's homes and ending up in landfills... The ban even applied to grocery delivery...so many stores either started charging for reusable bags for every single order (which the stores wouldn't let you return and reuse for future home delivery orders) or just started including them "free" with every order (which led politicians to say people should just donate all the extra reusable bags they now have).

 

[Harvey]

I think the bag ban is excellent. It's like a seat belt law. Once you get used to bringing your own, it is no big deal. It saves so much plastic. BTW you can still get bags but you have to pay for them.

We are crazy, having saved the plastic bags for a decade. Now we are slowly using them (dog poop and garbage) the same way we always did, but the pile is slowly shrinking.

They did this thing in germany several years ago where the manufacturer had to pay the consumer to return the packaging. The packaging got real small, real quick.

 

[Edd]

I spent time in La Paz, Mexico last year, a town with 250k people. We visited several grocery stores and none of them offered bags of any kind.

 

[zyk]

I think the bag ban is excellent. It's like a seat belt law. Once you get used to bringing your own, it is no big deal. It saves so much plastic. BTW you can still get bags but you have to pay for them.

We are crazy, having saved the plastic bags for a decade. Now we are slowly using them (dog poop and garbage) the same way we always did, but the pile is slowly shrinking.

They did this thing in germany several years ago where the manufacturer had to pay the consumer to return the packaging. The packaging got real small, real quick.

Just spent a week in new Hampshire. Took bags home for dog stuff etc. At home it's all lut totes and bags for everything. I don't mind but buying dog poo bags sucks.