I just don't use bags anymore, after checking out items go back in my cart and then are put in the car without bags. Nothing different then what I've been doing at BJs for the last 15 years. Does suck that I now have to buy bags for small garbages like in the bathroom and for dog crap but it isn't the end of the world.
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EVs - New Hampshire gets it right
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Smellytele
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Bringing it into the house when you get home must be a pita?
Think if you lived in an apartment building.
Smellytele
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As far as produce we have little mesh bags we use
True, I park less than 10 feet from my kitchen door so not an issue for me but if I had to park on the street or go up stairs things would be different.
Go to the grocery store ??? Pay for bags ???
Shaw's Delivery is a No Brainer. They'll even help unpack......
BenedictGomez
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Same.
I used the plastic grocery bags in all our bathroom garbage cans as well as the office cans. After Jersey banned them? I had to buy plastic bags to put in all those cans. And guess what? The "bought" plastic bags are much higher quality (READ: thicker plastic) than the free "evil" grocery bags. I'd need to put them on my baking scale to know for sure, but my guess is the bags I buy are 5x to 7x the plastic weight of the grocery bags. So lets say it's 6x, I'm using way MORE plastic than before. Rinse-and-repeat this story for everyone in my family who claims the same when this subject came up.
Additionally, my brother & sister now buy doggie poop bags at Petsmart or Petco rather than recycling grocery bags. I seriously think "banning" these grocery bags is worse for the environment than not, given how frequently they were recycled & repurposed by everyone. But hey, let's be honest, the environment's not what matters - this bag ban is all so politicians can make the certain "hippy dippy, but not so mentally blessed" voter element feel good about themselves, and so the politician himself/herself gets to pretend they're a champion for the environment.
BenedictGomez
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Generally speaking, this is (sadly) the better course of action than a given, random, government mandated intervention.
Hawk
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Again, if you don't start somewhere, you will get nowhere. The planet is doomed by inaction. Let's agree to that.
A lot of change happens organically, without government intervention. No need to be so pessimistic.
Hawk
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You mean realistic. I'm not jaded to think things are going to fix themselves. I seen enough to know.
Harvey
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We are one family. We had two big black garbage bags full of the thin plastic bags and our supply was growing.
Two years (?) later we are down to half a bag. When they run out, we'll buy super small poop bags for Penny and probably go without bags in our small garbage cans, in the bathrooms etc.
We still buy kitchen can bags for that one can, our main can, in the kitchen.
Giving up means you don't love your children.
Two years (?) later we are down to half a bag. When they run out, we'll buy super small poop bags for Penny and probably go without bags in our small garbage cans, in the bathrooms etc.
We still buy kitchen can bags for that one can, our main can, in the kitchen.
Giving up means you don't love your children.
Can't resist - so we love our children by borrowing from them, their kids, their grandkids ( lets not kid ourselves, there is NO WAY we as a dollar based institution, last that long). Interest on that debt has just surpassed the defense budget - $860B to DOD - $1T+ to interest - doesn't reduce the debt, just services it.We are one family. We had two big black garbage bags full of the thin plastic bags and our supply was growing.
Two years (?) later we are down to half a bag. When they run out, we'll buy super small poop bags for Penny and probably go without bags in our small garbage cans, in the bathrooms etc.
We still buy kitchen can bags for that one can, our main can, in the kitchen.
Giving up means you don't love your children.
If we all stopped exhaling - just all 330M Americans and one large volcano erupts. . . . more CO2 than our expelling of it. . . . . . f' facts, lets make ourselves feel good and plow pow. https://www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2023/09/download-4-1.jpg
Harvey
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I was trying to reduce my responsibility for that comment by adding a smilie face at the end.
The borrowing just proves my point.
The borrowing just proves my point.
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Missed that! Point taken.I was trying to reduce my responsibility for that comment by adding a smilie face at the end.
There borrowing just proves my point.
‘We must do it for the children’ has swayed many a low information voter.
See Ford stopped it’s EV battery op?
BodeMiller1
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Nice, is the front of that wide open? One of my buddies had a blower amazing how much heat it through.
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fine screen I added behind it- too many burnt spots on rug.
kbroderick
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Another FWIW, but I've come to the realization that a lot of the smaller trash cans I have don't need bags. If they're not getting any wet trash or food waste, they just get dumped into the bigger bag that's going out anyhow. I've noted that some hotels and commercial establishments do that now, as well, probably because the cost of trash bags adds up quickly when you've got hundreds of trash cans. You can also often dump a smaller, bag-lined trash can into the larger can and leave the bag, but still have it in case of something you really don't want to try to dump manually.
On the poop-bag front, that really depends on personal use case. Probably 80% of my dog's crap ends up places that I don't feel a need to collect it, and I'm still net-positive on poop bags (i.e. my box of poop bags is generally increasing, not decreasing in inventory, due to other plastic like bagel and bread bags).
I think the biggest benefit from Maine's legislation is that it (almost) forces people to actively think about whether or not they really need a bag at the checkout, rather than the store just providing a bunch out of habit. So if you're picking up two items or you brought your reusable bags, it's easy enough not to get additional bags; if you have a pile of stuff and forgot your bags, you just curse at yourself in your head and say, "yes, bags, please."
One example of the change in plastic waste from thinking about it and putting effort into reducing it would be Apple—I unboxed 75 of their laptops this summer and the plastic waste was limited to the small plastic liner around each machine in the box; the rest of the material was cardboard and recyclable. The contrast to the sleeves we got with the computers was pretty drastic, as the plastic waste from the not-particularly-breakable sleeves was comparable to that from the computers themselves.
Not sure I agree on the no bags in bathroom trash cans if you have women in the household.
AdironRider
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The ban makes certain people feel good but doesn't do anything for the environment.
But the real reason is the majority of the bag bans dont actually ban the bags, they just charge you $.05 to $,25 per bag, often split between the local govt and the retailer. That's the real juice, not some environmental bs. In some jurisdictions (notably tourist areas where people don't bring their reusable bags with them), it is not an insignificant source of revenue.
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