Hawk
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No Kidding dude. I used to drive twice a week to Bridgewater State for project meetings. People on 24 are out of thier minds. Totally agree.
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EVs - New Hampshire gets it right
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kbroderick
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I'm guessing 15-25 MPH is more typical for tree skiing, but I'm too lazy to pull a GPS track and verify at the moment.
The MSF class when I took it included photos of what happens when you drag your face on the asphalt without a chin bar, and that's among the scenarios I'd prefer to avoid. I'm not betting that it's going to move the needle in a significant-speed-versus-solid-object situation, but in a lot of cases, you can crash a motorcycle and the only thing you hit hard is the ground. At that point, you're talking about relatively manageable forces. Heck, the same is true about wearing motorcycle gear—the number of situations in which abrasion-resistant gear with moderate padding is going to prevent serious injury doesn't seem all that high, but the number of scenarios in which it can turn a hospital visit and a very uncomfortable recovery into standing on the side of the road in annoyance is high.
The same is true of ski crashes—if you come to a sudden stop by hitting a tree or other solid object at normal groomer-cruising speeds, you probably can't wear enough gear to prevent serious injury. But (thankfully) most ski crashes don't involve that particular scenario.
Hawk
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I ride my road bike 15 - 25 MPH most days. There is no way most people can ski that fast in the woods in NE unless you are in a very open area. I would say most people ski about 10MPH or less in the woods.
In 1990 I gave more than a dozen pics of Head & Facial trauma to our instructor. They have been shown thousands of times in his courses.....
All photos were from RI where there is No helmet law.
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My guess is because 24 stops at 95/128 and then you are screwed in hell traffic the rest of the way into Boston. So on 24 people fly while they have the chance.
Huge miss by not having 24 expanded as a highway all the way into the city. Same goes for route 2.
Only having 3 highways entering Boston is one of the biggest reasons traffic is such a nightmare in the city. If they had the foresight to have 2 and 24 available in addition to 90 and 93, things would be so much better
MadPadraic
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Boston already has too many highways going through (and under) it. Traffic is so bad because delivery drivers are constantly double parked, red lights are timed to ensure maximum dwell time, everyone is constantly drifting out of their lane, and the cops don't do any traffic enforcement.
kbroderick
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I looked at a couple of GPS logs.
You're right. I thought it would be more comparable to lift-served mountain biking or skiing slalom courses, but that doesn't seem to be the case, at least for the two days I looked at. I'm fairly sure I've skied with people who were at least a couple of notches faster, but most of us agreed that they were both rather talented and at least a little crazy.
MadPadraic
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I contend the worst drivers are the last 3 miles of I-89 right before it merges onto 93. It's like people forgot that there is a gas pedal (or whatever it is called on an EV).
24 is bad..
24 is bad..
I couldn't disagree with this statement more. There isn't a city of Boston's size in America that I'm aware of with more piss poor highway egress into the city. 93 N/S and the Pike is it. 9 lanes in basically. Other than that you are on local roads.
I mean look at Hartford. It's a city about a tenth the size. 4 ways in via highways.
now imagine power cords strung from all those brownstones, cross sidewalks, eyc. Its truly unimaginable. This is the EV string, correct?
as for speed, my youngest kid in Blazers clocked 42MPH on ( probably lower) Organgrinder. He overheard a former girl in our ski house tell us her daughter hit 72 as a racer for Castleton State. Told him its unconscionable to hit those speeds- unless controlled racing course - anyone pop out in front of you its all over for you and that downhill skier/rider. ' And at 12, we don't have enough life insurance on you yet. . . '
Seriously, thats not cool.
I'm thinking 10-12 MPH in trees, maybe higher in places that are open say in Rockies.
skef
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If you want to learn about the history of highways and Boston, this is a good start.
MadPadraic
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First off, I actually agree with you that Rt 2 should be extended, though really I think it should just have a better connection to Memorial Drive. The Alewife area has terrible traffic for no good reason.
I think we are approaching this with differing (or even directly contradictory goals). You live in NH and I assume you either want to access Boston for games/concerts/museums or possibly for work? I understand why you'd like more freeway lanes into the city.
From my perspective as a Boston resident, I view congestion as one of the biggest issues facing the city. Additionally, out of town drivers are often not used to sharing the road with bikers (a lot of Boston drivers aren't either). I want accessing the city via personal motor vehicle to be harder and less attractive than it currently is. I'd like more people coming in from outside the urban core to opt for taking the train or bus than to drive. Better bus&train service would help here too. (Obviously I want them to have the choice not a mandate).
You forgot Storrow Drive/Soldiers Field and Route 1 in your list of freeways into the city. In terms of other medium sized cities with 2 interstates? San Francisco, Seattle and Minneapolis come to mind.
One of my neighbors has a cord taped to the sidewalk for their plugin hybrid. So far I haven't seen anyone trip on it, but I think your general point is well taken. At least in the parts of Boston I'm very familiar most people either have dedicated off street parking or finding a space in front of your condo is unlikely to happen.
Route 1 puts you on 93 before entering the city unless you are going to Charlestown, which is a minimal amount of people. Storrow I wouldn't call a highway.
I would agree with your idea about discouraging more vehicles if the T was more expansive and reliable.
And looking outside the city, 495 should have been expanded to 5 lanes some 20 years ago. It's supposed to be a circ highway to get you around the major congestion of the city. Now it's just as bad as 93 , 95 and 90.
Is what it is. Only have to deal with it for work a day or two per week. When I retire, I'll avoid going south of the NH border like the plague. Absolutely all set with Massachusetts.
I would agree with your idea about discouraging more vehicles if the T was more expansive and reliable.
And looking outside the city, 495 should have been expanded to 5 lanes some 20 years ago. It's supposed to be a circ highway to get you around the major congestion of the city. Now it's just as bad as 93 , 95 and 90.
Is what it is. Only have to deal with it for work a day or two per week. When I retire, I'll avoid going south of the NH border like the plague. Absolutely all set with Massachusetts.
How will that work in winter when it snows.
Been there, done that….
I caught an edge at the bottom of Humphrey’s Ledge going on to Northwest. Passage… Major Yard Sale, GPS said 64mph !
Felt that one for a solid week.
MadPadraic
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I assume they are just careful of it when they shovel the sidewalk. Boston doesn't shovel for you, and you can actually get a ticket if your sidewalk isn't cleared within some number of hours after the storm ends. I don't know anyone who's actually received said ticket.
BenedictGomez
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I mean, I figured there was a good chance my above prediction could come true, but I didn't think it would only take 6 days for a 1/3 production pause. LOL
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Maybe Ford miscalculated their market? If I wanted a truck to commute, get groceries, and make an occasional hardware store run an EV would make sense. I have a truck strictly for truck stuff and gas consumption is nominal considering low miles driven.I mean, I figured there was a good chance my above prediction could come true, but I didn't think it would only take 6 days for a 1/3 production pause. LOL
Ford F-150 Lightning Sales Have ‘Tanked’: Memo
Plus strikes could cost Ford and GM more than $500 million and another 1,250 workers are furloughed as the industrial action continues
Off topic why are they pushing trucks with tiny beds? Looked at a Tundra and I think 5.5 was the biggest.
Edd
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My guess is most truck buyers rarely need the “truck” part of the vehicle, but they really really want to be truck owners, so more of a priority is put into the cabin part of the vehicle. Truck beds are shrinking, but cabin room is expanding.
Newpylong
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Probably for the same reason they also are at the bottom of the pack in all of the other half ton numbers? People who want a truck for anything more than light duty buy something from the Big 3. The F-150 has 3 bed options, the 5.5 being the smallest.
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