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EVs - New Hampshire gets it right

Dickc

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Route 1 puts you on 93 before entering the city unless you are going to Charlestown, which is a minimal amount of people. Storrow I wouldn't call a highway.

I would agree with your idea about discouraging more vehicles if the T was more expansive and reliable.

And looking outside the city, 495 should have been expanded to 5 lanes some 20 years ago. It's supposed to be a circ highway to get you around the major congestion of the city. Now it's just as bad as 93 , 95 and 90.

Is what it is. Only have to deal with it for work a day or two per week. When I retire, I'll avoid going south of the NH border like the plague. Absolutely all set with Massachusetts.

I bet you have never heard about the proposes I-695....
 

deadheadskier

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I bet you have never heard about the proposes I-695....


That's an interesting idea, but IMO too close to the city and would ruin a number of neighborhoods. I can see why folks are happy it didn't happen.

I remember in the 90s , 128 wasn't nearly as bad as today. And 495 was a cake walk. The state appears to have reached the limit on what the can do to expand 128. Well except for on the North Shore. 495 hasn't seen the needed expansion to keep up with population growth and almost all of it has the real estate to expand. The only thing that gives me hope it happens some day is the recent bridge replacement over the Merrimack in Haverhill. They built it wide enough that it could hold five lanes. So maybe in the future they do actually widen it.
 

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now imagine power cords strung from all those brownstones, cross sidewalks, eyc. Its truly unimaginable. This is the EV string, correct?

as for speed, my youngest kid in Blazers clocked 42MPH on ( probably lower) Organgrinder. He overheard a former girl in our ski house tell us her daughter hit 72 as a racer for Castleton State. Told him its unconscionable to hit those speeds- unless controlled racing course - anyone pop out in front of you its all over for you and that downhill skier/rider. ' And at 12, we don't have enough life insurance on you yet. . . '

Seriously, thats not cool.

I'm thinking 10-12 MPH in trees, maybe higher in places that are open say in Rockies.
I hit 70 once or at least that is what my phone said. It was on White heat, early morning when it was perfectly groomed. We were tucking down the head wall seeing how fast we could go. Really f-ing scary. I could not do that now. Not even close.
 

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I hit 70 once or at least that is what my phone said. It was on White heat, early morning when it was perfectly groomed. We were tucking down the head wall seeing how fast we could go. Really f-ing scary. I could not do that now. Not even close.
That cause you skied w/ all those psycho's :)
 

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That's an interesting idea, but IMO too close to the city and would ruin a number of neighborhoods. I can see why folks are happy it didn't happen.

I remember in the 90s , 128 wasn't nearly as bad as today. And 495 was a cake walk. The state appears to have reached the limit on what the can do to expand 128. Well except for on the North Shore. 495 hasn't seen the needed expansion to keep up with population growth and almost all of it has the real estate to expand. The only thing that gives me hope it happens some day is the recent bridge replacement over the Merrimack in Haverhill. They built it wide enough that it could hold five lanes. So maybe in the future they do actually widen it.
A story about I90 Mass Pike. From stories I've read - In the early 50's the speaker of the house needed votes on something - Worcester reps were not on board. He told them that if they didn't vote his way, he'd assure them that the new Mass Pike proposed would run not thru their fair city, but away from it. To this day Worcester has suffered because of that call.

Heres another take on that. https://mystuckmovinglife.blogspot.com/2013/06/why-does-mass-pike-avoid-worcester.html


Check this film out: https://jalopnik.com/this-is-how-the-massachusetts-turnpike-was-built-1840809272
 

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I hit 70 once or at least that is what my phone said. It was on White heat, early morning when it was perfectly groomed. We were tucking down the head wall seeing how fast we could go. Really f-ing scary. I could not do that now. Not even close.
I saw one of MB’s kids hit that kinda speed on RS one day.
I don’t know about him but I was scared poopless for the kid. I think he felt like it was just another Tuesday.
The fearlessness that comes along being young and having the skills.
 

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I hear you Andy. RS is even more scary because it has swales and it is not straight. More room for error. When I did it on WH it was a long time ago when they blew mountains of snow on it and groomed it smooth. Even the small flatter shelf where the pro bump was on bust and burn was smoothed over and almost a continuous pitch. Much eaiser because you do not have to turn. Just point and shoot.

Kids are nuts. I guess we were kids once too.
 

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Route 1 puts you on 93 before entering the city unless you are going to Charlestown, which is a minimal amount of people. Storrow I wouldn't call a highway.

I would agree with your idea about discouraging more vehicles if the T was more expansive and reliable.

And looking outside the city, 495 should have been expanded to 5 lanes some 20 years ago. It's supposed to be a circ highway to get you around the major congestion of the city. Now it's just as bad as 93 , 95 and 90.

Is what it is. Only have to deal with it for work a day or two per week. When I retire, I'll avoid going south of the NH border like the plague. Absolutely all set with Massachusetts.
Storrow is supposed to be a parkway. Don't tell the students.
 

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Storrow becomes a parking lot on a daily basis.
Except for when The Red Sox or Bruins are in town?

If you want to make time, you're only on it at night, right? I worked across from the old garden. Rented apartments to the Harvard crowd. Worked at the old Bank of New England Tower and lived in the combat zone. The trick to Boston is to never go there.

Most fun jobs in Boston. Getting held up in Charlestown in a bank heist. Making marked bills for the people who wanted them (never asked who they were, above my pay grade).

Creating "marked Bills" for drug buys. 20 US dollars (20's or 10's usually), you write down the serial number for 20 bills (or so) for a pack, the bills are not in sequential order and if there's a bag with $80,000 we "mark" 1 in maybe every 10 packs of 20's and 10's.

Then an officer of the bank signs off and the guys go make a buy. :whistle:

You pretty much do exactly what you are asked. It's a serious as you could ever imagine. Butt kind of cool. The head of security for Bank of New England's brother died in a armor car heist (driver or cop). He had good stories. The law was if you gun down a person robbing an armored car you got a $250,000 reward. There was a bounty :cool:. I never carried a gun in Boston. I was an officer for a bank in New Hampshire and kept a S&W 357 Mag in my car. Glad no one ever tried to rob the place. I was young dumb and ....
 

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That article had some good laughs in it. Tesla thinks they will sell 250,000/year of those monstrosities. That means it will out sell the Tacoma - currently the best selling mid-sized truck.

Oh and it won't meet production numbers until 2025. Been kicking that can down the road going in the better part of a decade.......
Musk has been left in the dust.
 

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The only Tesla I like the styling on is the Model S. But I have no use for a sedan

What's more concerning than looks is Tesla's poor reputation for reliability and fit/finish. Still everyone who wants an EV wants a Tesla. I have to imagine this catches up to them eventually if they dont improve.
 

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Maybe Ford miscalculated their market? If I wanted a truck to commute, get groceries, and make an occasional hardware store run an EV would make sense. I have a truck strictly for truck stuff and gas consumption is nominal considering low miles driven.

Off topic why are they pushing trucks with tiny beds? Looked at a Tundra and I think 5.5 was the biggest.

Yea...to me that defeats the purpose of a truck. My brother had a short-bed pickup and more than once asked to borrow my truck (same model pickup, but just a long bed vs short bed). Looks like GM is pushing smaller beds too (at least in their mid-size lineup as they eliminated the long bed option from the Canyon/Colorado line starting with the 2023 model year).
 

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I think maybe that's the answer as to why Ford feels the market is ready for an EV150. Many people don't use their trucks for utilitarian purposes. They just like trucks. That's probably why you see people buying short beds. They weigh how much they really need the extra length vs buying something slightly easier to park.
 

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Many people don't use their trucks for utilitarian purposes. They just like trucks.

That's absolutely the case. It's a last 30'ish years or so phenomena, and I completely fail to understand it. A weird macho thing? I mean, it is mostly men, and it's 100% fact that "many" (I'd say a majority) rarely if ever use the bed, so WTH is the point? An SUV or other class is a far better pragmatic choice for the majority.
 
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