First Snowfalls, Upcoming weather and Storms of winter 2023-2024. Storm snow totals, Observations and Predictions?

[MidnightJester]

Winter has knocked on the calendar door but its not really Rocking Snow yet in the Northeast. Here are some of the fully open mountains in North American. So a tasting of what is considered open terrain with Trail counts this point in the season "week 9" around North America. These are considered lift serviced trails at some of the open ski mountains on Saturday 12/30/23. Hike to your delight for more trail fun.

Updated this weekend Saturday 12/30/23 (open trail counts)

Mount Snow, VT -- 36/86​

Stratton, VT -- 40/99​

Magic Mountain, VT -- 2 trails open but open only (16" of snow this year)​

Okemo, VT -- 50/129​

Killington Resort, VT -- 51/155 +2"​

Sugarbush, VT -- 41/111​

Bolton Valley, VT -- 15/71​

Stowe, VT -- 37/127​

Smugglers Notch, VT -- 15/78​

Jay Peak, VT -- 12/81 (they have been losing trails every check in for 3 weeks) is it $$$$ or is Snowmaking offline??​

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Belleayre, NY -- 39/61​

Gore Mountain, NY -- 31/110​

Hunter Mountain, NY -- 23/66​

Windham, NY -- 22/54​

Whiteface Mountain, NY -- 24/94​

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Sunday River, ME -- 25/139​

Sugarloaf, ME -- 35/170​

Saddleback, ME -- 15/68​

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Wildcat ,NH -- 7/48 (Ugggggggggggg)​

Attitash, NH -- 17/76​

Loon Mountain, NH -- 26/73​

Mount Sunapee, NH -- 18/67​

Cannon, NH -- 29/97​

Bretton Woods, NH -- 19/98​

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Breckenridge, CO -- 98/187 ​

Vail, CO -- 240/278 ​

Aspen Snowmass, CO -- 283/336​

Winter Park Resort, -- CO 134/171​

Beaver Creek, CO -- 103/150​

Keystone Resort, CO -- 71/143 ​

Steamboat, CO -- 160/181​

Telluride, CO -- 82/147​

Arapahoe Basin, CO -- 17/145​

Loveland, CO -- 25/94​

Wolf Creek, CO -- 144/144 (Wolf is fully open)​

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Mammoth Mountain, CA -- 114/175​

----------Lake Tahoe CA,NV---------​

Kirkwood, CA --50/93

Northstar California, CA --29/100​

Palisades Tahoe, CA -- 57/270

Heavenly CA,NV -- 15/114​

Mt. Rose - Ski Tahoe, NV -- 38/66​

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Solitude, UT -- 67/87​

Park City, UT -- 134/346​

Alta, UT -- 81/118​

Deer Valley, UT -- 63/103​

Snow Basin , UT -- 112/114​

Snow Bird, UT -- 127/140​

 

[machski]

Midnight, you do a good job but Lonn was at 29 today with the grand opening of Timbertown pod.

As to Jay, yes the Jay Cloud snowmaking system has been offline for weeks now. We all know that is Jay's Achilles. That system doesn't push much power for the size of the resort. No Jay Cloud, trail count will be small.

 

[MidnightJester]

Midnight, you do a good job but Lonn was at 29 today with the grand opening of Timbertown pod.

As to Jay, yes the Jay Cloud snowmaking system has been offline for weeks now. We all know that is Jay's Achilles. That system doesn't push much power for the size of the resort. No Jay Clod, trail count will be small.

I try my best lol : )~ with open trail counts. Funny thing is I have seen when both Mountain Sites and OntheSnow have changing total trail counts not open ones but total on mountain.

When you say the Jay cloud snowmaking system, Do you mean
1- A real snowmaking system with pumps and guns and compressors??
or
2- Jay Peaks clouds that like to drop snow when very other few mountains get fresh snow from the sky?

Why We're about to get The Coldest Air of the Winter So Far with the added bonus of "Multiple" incoming Clipper storms on long range forecast's with it!​

 

[BodeMiller1]

It's snowing in Burlington and everything is right of in the world.

 

[kingslug]

The kingslug effect...
I leave for the west...it snows here...

 

[zyk]

The kingslug effect...
I leave for the west...it snows here...

Thank you. Its much appreciated. If you stay away longer will it snow more? Enjoy those years when I need a front loader to clear the driveway.

 

[ColdRain&Snow]

The kingslug effect...
I leave for the west...it snows here...

I’ve noticed this, I was thinking of cancelling my SB/Kill trip on Tuesday, until I saw you’re leaving that day

 

[kingslug]

You have till the 17th...then I'm back.
And I want those slopes covered!

 

[RH29]

Looks like we may be in for a coastal storm next Sat night/Sunday, with all three models being along these lines as of the 12z and 18z runs today. Accumulation is subject to change seeing as we're six days out, but appears to be pretty widely in the 8-12+" range across southern New England, the tri-state, and PA/MD/WV.

18z GFS


12z GEM

 

[Smellytele]

Might be a Berkshire east day next Sunday

 

[JimG.]

You have till the 17th...then I'm back.
And I want those slopes covered!

It is uncanny how it snows in the east when you go west.

 

[MidnightJester]

Here is to looking forward for Ullr and Mother nature to invite "Old Man Winter" to come have a Northeast Party : )~

It is uncanny how it snows in the east when you go west.

Well here is the setup with more to come. Old Man Winter about to make a comeback. Back-to-back snowstorms are on track over the next 10 days.

Sunday storm brings fluffy snow with highest amounts in southern Maine

Bands of heavy snow to blanket southern Maine with up to a foot Sunday.

www.newscentermaine.com

5:38 Starts the Northeast. Ohhhhhh MY : )~ Those are possible Double-Storm "INCHES" and not Temperatures!!

 

[BodeMiller1]

Let's add squall to clipper systems.

I was at Cannon in March. The cars coming off the mountain going to I93S were stopped on the on ramp to the park way. You could not see a tail light 15' away. The Franconia Pumper truck probably filled with water escorted 20 cars for 3 or so miles.

Has anyone ever seen this?

2' feet of windblown powder, huge drifts.

 

[MidnightJester]

2'ft becomes a little too much Snow for Low angle trails and Southern Vermont mountains to handle on 1 day but spread out over a few days its great. but a 2'ft base builder would be welcomed regardless. Northern Vermont will welcome 2ft' in a day happily again and again

January 7th Storm is tracking away from a main Vermont hit. Losing half of possible total Snow amounts in Vermont. Storm #2 around 1/10/23 with 8"-12" would be a wonderful boost to hide the ice and bare spots that are all over.

Major winter storm brewing with snow, ice and rain to blast Northeast​

Millions in the Northeast, including those along Interstate 95, could face their first major winter storm of the season this weekend. Travel conditions will deteriorate due to snow, ice and rain.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/winter-weather/major-winter-storm-brewing-with-snow-ice-and-rain-to-blast-northeast/1608380

Mt. Hood, OR, is Experiencing the Worst Start to a Ski Season in 34 Years - SnowBrains

The snowfall across much of the U.S. this winter has been disappointing. Although plenty of resorts are open, the average snowpack is well below historical averages. Perhaps nowhere else is this more apparent than on Mt. Hood, Oregon. The current settled snow at the base at Timberline Lodge is a...

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First Snow Survey of the Season Finds 25% of Average Snowpack for California - SnowBrains

With Above Average Reservoir Levels, El Niño Conditions, and a Dry Start to the Water Year, California is Preparing for Flood or Dry Conditions in the Months Ahead

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[kendo]

Winter has knocked on the calendar door but its not really Rocking Snow yet in the Northeast. Here are some of the fully open mountains in North American. So a tasting of what is considered open terrain with Trail counts this point in the season "week 9" around North America. These are considered lift serviced trails at some of the open ski mountains on Saturday 12/30/23. Hike to your delight for more trail fun.

Updated this weekend Saturday 12/30/23 (open trail counts)

Mount Snow, VT -- 36/86​

Stratton, VT -- 40/99​

Magic Mountain, VT -- 2 trails open but open only (16" of snow this year)​

Okemo, VT -- 50/129​

Killington Resort, VT -- 51/155 +2"​

Sugarbush, VT -- 41/111​

Bolton Valley, VT -- 15/71​

Stowe, VT -- 37/127​

Smugglers Notch, VT -- 15/78​

Jay Peak, VT -- 12/81 (they have been losing trails every check in for 3 weeks) is it $$$$ or is Snowmaking offline??​

Thanks for reporting. Good info, but wondering if any independent site reports Total number of trails (or acres) with snowmaking and Daily number of snowmaking trails (or acres) open for each resort?

Would be a much better indicator of a resort owner's capability and desire to make snow (Belleayre vrs Hunter; Epic NH; etc), along with highlighting & calling out the Epic and Icon budget & staffing frugalness.

Need a way of ensuring a satisfactory ROI for the pass holder. Simply being open, versus being 100% manmade open, affects the customer experience.


Stowe today. . .

Day 45 of the season. Probably day 59+ of operations (ie: snowmaking prep & grooming).

34 snowmaking trails open / out of 52 trails noted as snowmaking trails on the map.
65% of snowmaking trails open.
To note - 1 black trail open with snowmaking / out of 9 with snowmaking ... 10-15 turns for expert skiers at EPIC's premier eastern resort.


Stowe is behind on opening expert snowmaking trails & the ROI for the expert skier is low. They note they're pumping 3500gpm today (resurfacing) and last week they noted 4000gpm. Not sure what their max capability/capacity is, but that's probably it.

Expansion & recovery capability during shorter weather windows needs to be enhanced.

Stowe's new GM recently noted she's 'aware of opportunities for higher efficiency and low-e equipment, but those require capital investment... '

 

[MidnightJester]

Top 7 Snowiest Ski resorts in Euorope.

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The new year delivered the goods across many European resorts. Between 20 and 50 cm (8-20 inches) fell across the Alps on New Year. Especially French resorts in the west of the Alps have seen a lot of snowfall in the last couple of days. If you’re wondering which resorts have the deepest...

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Incoming Storm Round 1 of 2

SnowBrains Forecast: Major Snow For California This Week - 2 FEET Possible - SnowBrains

Finally, a major surge of moisture will push into California this week, dropping 6-18″ with localized high-elevation zones seeing as much as 2 feet of snow. The storm will last from Tuesday evening until Wednesday morning, with lingering snowfall into Wednesday night. The snow level will be...

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Today's Deepest Resorts - These Are North America's Top 5 Snowfall Totals for January 3, 2024 - SnowBrains

In what will be a daily post, we're bringing you the top five snowfall totals for resorts across North America.

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[slatham]

Need this to shift north but I’m becoming doubtful it will.

But it’s the storm next week that will be make or break. Some scenarios have a monsoon like mid-December, some have a net gainer, and some have all out snow north of I-90. Key is, does strong -NAO keep track of secondary storm south/East and thus hold off warm air intrusion?

Also, posting snowfall maps >72 hours out is bad karma……

 

[Hawk]

MIdnight jester has posted all these great storms this year. I think maybe one actually proofed out. Maybe he is the one that the snow gods are punishing. ;-)

 

[drjeff]

If every storm on say a 5 to 10 day model run played out as the "jackpot" scenario model showed, every trail in the Norhteast would be open, and have been open for weeks now.... Talk to me at the 48hr out or less timeframe, then I start to put some faith in what the models are hinting at..... Outside of that, all you can really say is that if 10000001 variables come together that something may happen in the extended timeframe......

 

[MidnightJester]

Also, posting snowfall maps >72 hours out is bad karma……

When does the 72hrs officially start?? Is it Midnight plus one minute on storm day?? or When the first Flakes hit a State, Mountain or Geographical area?
The Storm system is officially chugging across the Country as we type

MIdnight jester has posted all these great storms this year. I think maybe one actually proofed out. Maybe he is the one that the snow gods are punishing. ;-)

Hey I bat what I bat : ) the Snow gods have to like me a little I sacrifice a Snow virgin every year on a mountain if i can. In my defense we have only had few a storms to this point that were even Snow possible but they will come and as Snow drops go that's how they go. We hold the Cold the snow will come.

Between the two storms in (4-5 days) if we can pull 12+ inches we will improve our base all over the mountains of Vermont and the Northeast for our January season.

Just hold the Cold and keep the Snow as Snow : )