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If you could pick up and move.....
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BenedictGomez
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How's Montana? I dont think anyone's mentioned that one yet. It's beautiful, rural, affordable, and has some well-renowned ski mountains. I'm guessing it's probably pretty lacking culturally though.
Cannonball
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If you think Utah is too far from the ocean....
VTKilarney
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Bozeman is a fantastic town. But you need to accept that it's colder than in Colorado. Sometimes MUCH colder. I found the weather in Whitefish to be too much Pacific Northwest like. This is not to say that it's like Seattle, but the snow is definitely not as dry as I was expecting. There are some hidden gems that aren't worth traveling to, but would be a nice place to live - such as Red Lodge.
Edd
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A lot of marine ecologist opportunities in Montana though, but you already know that.
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Seriously?
You are assigning blame on tax policy to a POLITICAL PARTY. It doesn't get any more political than that. Now shame on me for engaging in the discussion regarding democrats in NH and how their influence hasn't changed anything, but politics are a no go here. Plenty of other places on the internet to have an "intellectual discussion" on tax policy and political parties.
Let's try and continue the conversation while leaving donkeys and elephants out of it okay?
Scruffy
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Summers are beautiful, winters are foggy and cold, spring skiing is nice. Nice place to go fly fishing or ranching.
You can't have your cake and eat it too Bene. If you want culture, you'll have to live in a state that rubs you the wrong way, hence why you lived in NYC and now NJ.
St. Bear
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That was my response. You get 80% of the powder of UT with 40% of the crowds. Lower cost of living, and there's summer skiing not far away in Glacier Park.
Apparently all you have to do to avoid engaging in policitical discussion is to replace all of your normative claims with the politically salient facts that support them. Opponents of campaign finance reform the world over must be rejoicing.
BenedictGomez
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That's fine, but for my final 2¢ on the matter to clarify, I never said "blame" and everything I said was entirely factual, not political (there's a rather huge difference). If you point out that Clinton started NAFTA and Bush started the Patriot Act that's not called being "political", it's called "talking about stuff that actually happened". The conversation related to affordability, and if we cant even have a friendly discussion about which places factually have higher taxes than other places for "fear" of pointing out which party may be in control, that's not really "politics", it's "political correctness".
I lived in NYC because I pretty much had to, and I lived/live in NJ pretty much because I was born here and it's what I know (not the greatest of reason but likely the most common one everyone has). But I'm definitely thinking about "escape" options, I just dont quite know where yet. Hell, seems like 1/2 my graduating HS class has "fled" from NJ - it's a serious problem.
That sounds pretty awesome.
Smellytele
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To get into the nonpolitical/political talk -
It seems people move to NH because they like the way of life or they think they do and the lower taxes. Then they get here and realize "hey there are no sidewalks, no thrash pick up? Hey why are the roads bumpy and some not paved? We Need sidewalks! We NEED thrash pick up! We NEED paved roads!" Well how do we pay for these things? We raise taxes and what happens to the way of life that they thought they liked?
It seems people move to NH because they like the way of life or they think they do and the lower taxes. Then they get here and realize "hey there are no sidewalks, no thrash pick up? Hey why are the roads bumpy and some not paved? We Need sidewalks! We NEED thrash pick up! We NEED paved roads!" Well how do we pay for these things? We raise taxes and what happens to the way of life that they thought they liked?
Scruffy
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Did I mention the winter fog! Serious fog! Look up the number of sunny days per winter months. Look up snow ghosts.
I have no strong interest one way or the other in the local politics of New Hampshire, but "talking about stuff that actually happened," or "history," cannot and should not be divorced from political or moral or other normative forms of discourse. The idea that normative discourse is purely prescriptive, a mere matter of opinion and neither true nor false is one of the more nefarious dogmas of scientific, philosophical and political thought since the early 20th century and you only have to look as far as the ridiculous and self-defeating cultural and moral relativisms of the politically correct crowd to see why. Sure, certain facts under certain conditions may lack normative significance. But to conclude from this that there is some strong and insurmountable gap between factual, historical and scientific discourse. on the one hand, and moral and political dicourse on the other, smacks of a kind of defeatism to say the least.
VTKilarney
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I've never experienced that. My relatives in New Hampshire get more services from their town (trash pickup, leaf pickup, etc.). Their roads are plowed better, and those roads are in no worse condition than in Vermont. New Hampshire spends less money, but the brunt of that falls on social services. They have always maintained their roads as well as any other state in this area.
x10003q
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A nice area to look is the Carson Valley just south of Carson City, NV. The area has 4 seasons, with a mild winter and hardly any snow(high-desert climate). It is less than an hour to Reno, NV, and the Reno Int Airport. Lake Tahoe is 1/2 hour away. San Francisco is about 4 hours away. Nevada does not have income tax. You can have a year round outdoor lifestyle with easy access to all the skiing that is on Lake Tahoe. You can enjoy California with out having to live in California. If the snow sucks at Tahoe it is less than an 8 hour drive to Salt lake City and about 9 hours to Sun Valley. Flights to SLC are a little longer than an hour from Reno and Reno International has only closed due to weather a few times in the last 20 years. Reno metro population is over 400,000 so there are probably some decent medical facilities.
Spokane, WA, is another consideration, but the weather is colder with more snow than I might want to deal with.
I doubt I will be able to convince my wife that either would be a good location for us.
Spokane, WA, is another consideration, but the weather is colder with more snow than I might want to deal with.
I doubt I will be able to convince my wife that either would be a good location for us.
bobbutts
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Sac is a dump of a city but some of the outlying areas seem ok. I know they have the most trees or whatever, but it's loaded with homeless and drug problems. Placerville seems like it might be OK. Minden/Gardnerville NV is a bit more rural beautiful spot at least the areas at the base of the Sierra and not a long ride to Kirkwood or Heavenly.
Of the places I've been, I'd move to Chamonix. Gigantic awe inspiring mountains, skiing in every direction, lively international town. I'd consider going blind to Innsbruck Austria maybe, sounds like an interesting city with great skiing.
VTKilarney
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I preferred Kitzbuhel to Innsbruck, but that's like debating between two fine wines.
Edd
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I'd give that area serious consideration but searches for employment that would suit me have not been encouraging. Fell in love with Tahoe the first time I went. I'd like to try living in downtown Truckee.
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abc
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Kitzbuhel is a mountain 'village' while Innsbruck is definitely a city that happen to be situated in the mountains.
Like Sacramento vs. Minden.
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