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Keelhauled

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"write off" doesn't magically mean they get the money they spent on labor and fuel back in the account, it just means they don't pay tax on the income from ticket sales tomorrow. As long as they are honoring season/spring passes they can't deduct the expenses associated from the taxable revenue either.
 

joshua segal

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June and October skiing are part of the Killington mystique. With the weather forecast tomorrow, theyโ€™ll likely make it a break even or even profitable day with sales at the umbrella bar. Iโ€™ll bet also that most of the clients will be season passholders. I doubt theyโ€™ll sell even 100 lift tickets at the window.
 

deadheadskier

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Break even or profitable if all season pass holders?

What is your cost estimate on patching together the trail and labor associated with lifts, patrol and f&b staff. They'll need to sell a ton of beer to make a profit and many of those season pass holders won't buy a drop from the mountain. They'll BYOB and party on the access road.

I don't see tomorrow as a break even or profitable day at all. This is about marketing, same as every other year.
 

BodeMiller1

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"write off" doesn't magically mean they get the money they spent on labor and fuel back in the account, it just means they don't pay tax on the income from ticket sales tomorrow. As long as they are honoring season/spring passes they can't deduct the expenses associated from the taxable revenue either.
Hmm

Don't know the business. Can only imagine how complicated it is. One thing I do know is you can move credits butt you cannot move debits. In other words, once you have a debit it has to stay within the cost center, and you can pull in credits to pay them.

If you could move credits, it would create a nightmare trying to prevent fraud. There are limits, for example. You can pay open invoices within your company with money from over seas.

Keelhauled seems to be correct at least for a keelhauler. ๐Ÿฅฑ
 

nhskier1969

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Crazy idea, Killington has an issue with the headwall melting out every year. why don't they put down a dry ski slope material at the top. They could take it off in the summer and put it back on in the fall. As the snow melts off the headwall each day, there will still be a curvable surface.
 

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I think they can write off the labor and diesel as it is going toward the event.

Why? The majority of the people skiing will be paying customers who's money is not going to charity. Will the money made at the Ubar be going to charity? No. The whole event is not for charity, just the single day tickets sold for it which probably will be less than 100.
 

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I just cannot believe they are burning the diesel to patch that together, quite the commitment.
Heck, in some parts of the Northeast, diesel is currently cheaper than gas (with 1 of my families 4 cars a diesel, I am aware of the cost difference (and yes, I am well aware, and guessing that the diesel K fuels their cats with is bulk purchase with a price point long since agreed upon and probably not reflective of the current price at the pump ๐Ÿ˜‰ ) good for them giving it their all!
 

letitsnow1

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Crazy idea, Killington has an issue with the headwall melting out every year. why don't they put down a dry ski slope material at the top. They could take it off in the summer and put it back on in the fall. As the snow melts off the headwall each day, there will still be a curvable surface.
They should put dryslope on the whole trail keep superstar open year round. Can they make dryslope moguls?
 

thetrailboss

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They should put dryslope on the whole trail keep superstar open year round. Can they make dryslope moguls?
Dry Slope moguls would be painful. Speaking from experience regarding Dry Slope.....

Hillend, Scotland where I used to ski during my time in Scotland.

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Not at Hillend, but a dry mogul slope somewhere else.

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djd66

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I think they can write off the labor and diesel as it is going toward the event.
Trust me,โ€ฆ what ever they may be writing off (if they are?) it will not mean anything on the bottom line. We are probably talking about 0.00001% at the end of the day.

This is being done because it is the killington brand. Itโ€™s what I appreciate killington for,โ€ฆ good for them!
 

mister moose

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"write off" doesn't magically mean they get the money they spent on labor and fuel back in the account, it just means they don't pay tax on the income from ticket sales tomorrow. As long as they are honoring season/spring passes they can't deduct the expenses associated from the taxable revenue either.

Why? The majority of the people skiing will be paying customers who's money is not going to charity. Will the money made at the Ubar be going to charity? No. The whole event is not for charity, just the single day tickets sold for it which probably will be less than 100.

It's not like they create a separate mini financial statement for 6/1, and then the other 364 days get a different statement. All the labor and diesel for the entire year goes into the expense side, and all the ticket sales F&B, and rentals goes into income. The charitable donation for ticket sales tomorrow is just another deduction on the year's operations.

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deadheadskier

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Looks like they're still working on things a bit this morning. Impressive amount of time and effort they're putting into this for their customers. Very impressive

I look forward to seeing pictures and reading about the day.
 

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Looks like they're still working on things a bit this morning. Impressive amount of time and effort they're putting into this for their customers. Very impressive

I look forward to seeing pictures and reading about the day.
Yeah, top notch effort on K's part. That said, switching to winter to get the mountain view cam, center section still looks like there are at least two dirt patches to ski across to start the day. Enjoy to those who can make it. Perhaps next year post El Nino will be a better season start and we can get that thing back upwards of 30'?
 

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Is there any chance they open before 9? That's a lot of people up there waiting for an hour and 45 mins lol. I was gonna get up there around 830.
 
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