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Less Grooming as a Result of Higher Diesel Prices?

Will resorts groom less as a result of high fuel costs?

  • Certainly yes. Tough industry and anything to hold costs will help.

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  • No. The market demands lots of fresh groomed slopes.

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  • They groom New England's trails?

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  • No more grooming EVER!

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  • What is grooming?

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Lostone

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I think they will cut back where ever they think they can.

I think that may lead to less grooming on weekdays, and, as said above, on select trails. The interesting thing is that they'll never know when their decision was bad because their (former) customers will silently switch to going somewhere else. :roll:

I just hope Sugarbush doesn't stop grooming Egans Woods! :lol:
 

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Bigger question is, will higher gas prices keep people from skiing as much? Won't affect me, but others will probably feel it.
 

bvibert

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ctenidae said:
Bigger question is, will higher gas prices keep people from skiing as much? Won't affect me, but others will probably feel it.

I think you're right, that'll be the bigger impact...
 

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ctenidae said:
Bigger question is, will higher gas prices keep people from skiing as much? Won't affect me, but others will probably feel it.

Rumor has it that Bush will tap into the strategic oil reserves to avoid a spike in the market. Most resorts would have already purchased their fuel if they were smart...but this summer was an anomaly in the market when prices did not go down in the summer and climbed instead.
 

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Bush will most likely tap the SPR- he almost has to. Trouble is, it'll be too late (admittedly through no fault of the Administration's). It may mitigate some spike, but over the next couple of days oil will keep going up, and won't come back down. Most of the resorts probably bought fuel on futures, which will help, but the price has been high all summer, so the increased cost is already there. High gas prices are here, and here to stay. I wonder how many calls Sugarbush has gotten from other areas asking how biodiesel's working out.
 

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ctenidae said:
MRG changed the diesel on the single to electric, didn't they? The other downside to high oil is high electricity costs, too.
Only 2-3% of the electricity in the US is produced by oil. Over 50% is by coal. Rising oil prices have little direct impact on electricity prices, although there is some indirect impact.

-dave-
 

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Only 2-3% of the electricity in the US is produced by oil. Over 50% is by coal. Rising oil prices have little direct impact on electricity prices, although there is some indirect impact.

Very true, but I think we'll see a significant increase in trucking and mining costs for coal, which will be passed on to end users.

Gotta love the petroleum-based economy.
 

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Strat said:
Go sugarbush and biodiesel!

I have to get my mandatory once-a-year Middle Earth run in, only do it when it's groomed...
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what they groom it? never new that, if i went there and it was groomed i would be pissed.
 

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I believe once in a while ME and Castlerock Run are groomed. Mostly likely before a school holiday week, I'd imagine.
 

JimG.

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Most likely scenario:

Beginner and Intermediate terrain will receive the usual amounts of manmade snow and grooming.

If there are any cutbacks, it'll be at the expense of expert terrain.

I'm not looking for trail 44 to be open this season at Hunter.
 

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Greg said:
I believe once in a while ME and Castlerock Run are groomed. Mostly likely before a school holiday week, I'd imagine.

Yes they are. Usually after a bad thaw/freeze.
 

Lostone

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They don't groom them much. And when they do, it is because they are almost unskiable, before. Unfortunately, unless there is a storm right after, they then turn into a sheet of ice, very quickly.

But if you ever get one of the runs where they've knocked everything down and then we get hit be a big storm... :beer: You probably won't forget it. :D
 

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yup, timing is everything when it comes to grooming a bump/natural snow run. it must be done when the bumps get nasty, but timing is critical! wait for the big one, then the lines get setup proper again and are great for a long time to come pending no NCP :beer:
 
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