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[drjeff]

Smoke in your lungs is not good for them. Have you ever look at the water in a bong? Not exactly healthy looking.

That said there is no amonia and what not that is created in making cigarettes.

Still our bodies lungs need fresh AIR not fresh smoke

 

[wa-loaf]

Smokers pay more for there health premium but it does not stop there. There should be a scale at every establishment that distributes food. you get on the scale and they tax you on your weight. Fat people would be up in arms.

No, but some of this is already being driven by employers. There are a few cases of people who join a gym or change their eating habits getting discounts on their insurance premiums. And smokers and overweight people having to pay more.

 

[BeanoNYC]

I'm no pot head, but I don't think that the smoke from weed has the same carcinogens like cigarette smoke (though I could be wrong).

Maybe someone from the Grateful Dead thread could chime in on this point?

I don't foresee people smoking a pack and a half a joints a day. Besides...there are other ways to receive a dosage of THC.

 

[tjf67]

Yes.....Read this article from the CDC. A brief snip:

"Smoking harms nearly every organ of the body; causing many diseases and reducing the health of smokers in general. The adverse health effects from cigarette smoking account for an estimated 438,000 deaths, or nearly 1 of every 5 deaths, each year in the United States. More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined. [. . .] Smoking causes about 90% of lung cancer deaths in men and almost 80% of lung cancer deaths in women. The risk of dying from lung cancer is more than 23 times higher among men who smoke cigarettes, and about 13 times higher among women who smoke cigarettes compared with never smokers."

Great info thanks. Not sold. To much spinning.
Who is that movie star that everyone can be linked to I forget. Thats how i feal about smoking.

 

[jack97]

I fight the battle with cigarettes constantly. I semi-quit, start again, quit, start, stop. I cant give it up entirely. it sucks really. Especially when i consider i didnt even start till i was 21 years old. most people it seems, if they made it through college never really picked up the habit. I made it through my college years and then started. oh well......

I started in college due to the stress of making the grades and all the waiting around between classes. I found a way to quit even when work was filled with longer periods of boredoom and higher stesss.

As Greg said, do it for the kids, if that doesn't work.... how are you keep up with the rest of the gang when they are ripping and lapping the bump runs?

 

[drjeff]

No, but some of this is already being driven by employers. There are a few cases of people who join a gym or change their eating habits getting discounts on their insurance premiums. And smokers and overweight people having to pay more.

I've got no problem with this at all. Folks need to start thinking about insurance for what it really is, and that's basically a bet that the insurance company makes with it's subscribers about how little you'll use it. If you have lower risk factors, then the chances of you becoming a major payout by the insurance company are lower and you should pay less. Higher risk factors = more likely to become a big payout = should pay more.

Insurance companies folks I hate to break it to you, but are FOR PROFIT companies, who make money by you using their services less.

 

[jack97]

Insurance companies folks I hate to break it to you, but are FOR PROFIT companies, who make money by you using their services less.

Yep it's a bet, so if more people are smoking and overweight, then the rest of the population has to pony up to minimize the risk. Meaning higher cost for everyone.

Looking at the obesity trend, I may not die due to obesity related issues but I will probably be paying some of the bills due to this problem.

http://www.obesityinamerica.org/trends.html

 

[Greg]

how are you keep up with the rest of the gang when they are ripping and lapping the bump runs?

He does just fine there; although I do hear him breathing heavy on some of the footage he takes.... :razz:

 

[wa-loaf]

I've got no problem with this at all. Folks need to start thinking about insurance for what it really is, and that's basically a bet that the insurance company makes with it's subscribers about how little you'll use it. If you have lower risk factors, then the chances of you becoming a major payout by the insurance company are lower and you should pay less. Higher risk factors = more likely to become a big payout = should pay more.

Insurance companies folks I hate to break it to you, but are FOR PROFIT companies, who make money by you using their services less.

I do however feel that the insurance companies should not be allowed to deny people coverage for pre-existing conditions and there probably should be some sort of cap on the premium. I'm all for finding some kind of middle ground where everyone can get and afford insurance, but that those who neglect their health do pay a penalty for it (beyond having bad health ).

 

[Greg]

I don't foresee people smoking a pack and a half a joints a day.

Probably not. But still, I just don't like shit in my lungs.

 

[tjf67]

Probably not. But still, I just don't like shit in my lungs.

Me neither I gave up eating shit a long time ago

 

[Greg]

Me neither I gave up eating shit a long time ago

Really? You still talk it a lot...

 

[jack97]

He does just fine there; although I do hear him breathing heavy on some of the footage he takes.... :razz:

Naw, I willing to bet he can't lap flying goose, top to bottom. :wink:

 

[tjf67]

Really? You still talk it a lot...

I walk the talk. You would know but you dont come to big moutains. haha

 

[Greg]

I walk the talk. You would know but you dont come to big moutains. haha

Wow. What a clever reply. Did you only ski Whiteface last year?

 

[Dr Skimeister]

Me too, I used to smoke. I tried several times before that..... once I got over the 2 month, it was easy.

Hardest part was drinking coffee without a smoke.

When I quit smoking some 25 years ago, it was so easy to do once I acknowledged that it is more of a mechanical addiction than a chemical dependency. I convinced myself that I DIDN'T need a cig with the cup of coffee, I DIDN'T need a cig after finishing a meal, I DIDN'T need a cig when I got in the car, etc. It is so possible to reprogram your routine once you see what the routine is.

 

[tjf67]

Wow. What a clever reply. Did you only ski Whiteface last year?

Nope was in squaw as well. I meant to make it down to your bunny hill but my corn was acting up.

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

It's been 5 years, 2 months, 1 week and 13 hours since I quit smoking....Still think about it at least once a week. I'd like one now, actually. Damn tobacco corporations peddling their death sticks!

 

[Greg]

I meant to make it down to your bunny hill but my corn was acting up.

Snuff out your butts on it; maybe you can burn it off like a wart.

 

[tjf67]

Snuff out your butts on it; maybe you can burn it off like a wart.

very clever you crack me up