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Permanent Industry Changes in the Post-COVID World

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boston_e

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I'll have to try Chick-fil-a. There is one in the North Shore Mall right in my city, maybe three miles from me. I've never eaten at one.

Don't get overly excited. It sounds like I may be in the minority on this thread but I'd put Chick-Fil-A in the perfectly average "meh" category. It is fine if you have to grab something quick on the go and definitely a half step or step above some of the other common fast food chains.
 

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I’d love to see In and Out or Shake Shack up here. Never tried SS. I spent a few days in Chicago a few years ago and was determined to hit it but the line in the street was never less than 30 deep.
I did try Shake Shack maybe ~5ish years ago. I was underwhelmed and couldn't understand the hype for that one...
 

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Chick-fil-A is pretty good, but I'm not a huge fan of Chick-fil-A. My wife is. I will say that their chicken sandwiches usually feature a nice size chunk of chicken breast. It's kind of expensive, but so is my favorite Five Guys. My tombstone is going to read cause of death - Five Guys fries:p
I've tried In-Out Burger about three times and not impressed. Memorably, went to one in Las Vegas couple years ago and it was terrible, cold burger, stale bread. Tasted like sitting out for a while. Fries not good either. Maybe I caught it on a bad day?? Think I went to a Shake Shack once in Cumberland, MD after skiing at Wisp ski area. Can't remember anything about it.
 

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shake shack is a pretty decent burger as far as fast food burgers go. i prefer it to like mcdonalds and burger king, but i dont prefer it compared to a typical pub burger or independent smash burger place like blue collar in williamsburg.

it definitely does not take very long to get in and out of a shake shack anymore tho. that was years ago that it was like that - when they were just in madison square park and then a few limited locations. theres so many of them now in nyc and elsewhere. it may be busy and take a while at lunch time or peak weekend times, but i have two shake shacks within a 10 minute walk of my apartment and i can walk into either right now at 8:15 on a wednesday night and order and be on my way just about instantly.
 

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Culvers is my favorite fast food burger.
Chic-fil-a is decent but kind of overrated, I usually get the grilled nuggets there. Over the summer on my way to Montana I saw one with a line that had to be half a mile long. Me and my girlfriend just went inside and had our food in under 5 mins.
 

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Shake Shack is a perfect example of the KIND of take out I'm talking about. Not fast food but decent food without the fuss! (not particularly fast anyway)

Burgers is by nature not a "fine dining" food. But as an illustration of the range of quality, burger can be mouth-watering good, or like chewing rubber!

There's a rather good "burger restaurant" in the village I live. Their burger is good. But it just doesn't really make much sense to sit down and be served... a burger! I do sometimes when I have people visiting, because the food is good. But yeah, that's the kind of restaurant I feel strongly a robot will do no worse than a waiter! When I feel like a really nice burger but just by myself? I order it for take out!

Shake Shack's burger is pretty close in quality to this burger restaurant near me. If there're both of them here, I'd happily alternate between them. Take out.
 

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Never been to a shake shack. Only been to In n Out a handful of times but usually tasty experiences.
 

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shake shack is a pretty decent burger as far as fast food burgers go. i prefer it to like mcdonalds and burger king, but i dont prefer it compared to a typical pub burger or independent smash burger place like blue collar in williamsburg.

Maybe that's my problem with them...it may be a higher end fast food burger, but it still reminds me of a fast food burger. When I want a burger, I want a GOOD burger. The way some people talk them up, I was expecting something closer to a pub burger, not just an above-average fast food burger.
 

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What’s pretty good is Lexie’s, with 3 NH locations and one in Newburyport, MA. Burgers, fries, and onion rings are great, IMO.

 

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By far the best “fast food” burger I’ve ever had is at Lexi’s - small “chain” with just a few locations around coastal New Hampshire. Not exactly fast food since you do sit down and order…. But not a “pub” burger style either.
 

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What’s pretty good is Lexie’s, with 3 NH locations and one in Newburyport, MA. Burgers, fries, and onion rings are great, IMO.

Funny I was posting the exact same thing just as you were! Lexi’s is great.
 
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Shake Shack is a perfect example of the KIND of take out I'm talking about. Not fast food but decent food without the fuss! (not particularly fast anyway)

Burgers is by nature not a "fine dining" food. But as an illustration of the range of quality, burger can be mouth-watering good, or like chewing rubber!

There's a rather good "burger restaurant" in the village I live. Their burger is good. But it just doesn't really make much sense to sit down and be served... a burger! I do sometimes when I have people visiting, because the food is good. But yeah, that's the kind of restaurant I feel strongly a robot will do no worse than a waiter! When I feel like a really nice burger but just by myself? I order it for take out!

Shake Shack's burger is pretty close in quality to this burger restaurant near me. If there're both of them here, I'd happily alternate between them. Take out.
To each their own but i cook fairly nice food for a living and when I'm not working a burger and a pint is often the kind of thing I'm looking for. Or fried clams.
 

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I’d love to see In and Out or Shake Shack up here. Never tried SS.

My vote getter for "most overrated fast food" restaurant. It was cool as an occasional treat when there were only a few of them in the city, decent, but nothing earthshattering. Now that there's a zillion of them all over America I'm like WTH?
 

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I've tried In-Out Burger about three times and not impressed. Memorably, went to one in Las Vegas couple years ago and it was terrible, cold burger, stale bread. Tasted like sitting out for a while. Fries not good either. Maybe I caught it on a bad day??

My 2nd place recipient for, "Most overrated fast food" restaurant. The burgers are pretty good, but like Shake Shack the fries taste like grocery store freezer aisle. And the menu is so limited. Net/net, a very good burger, but I just dont understand the cult fascination.
 

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My 2nd place recipient for, "Most overrated fast food" restaurant. The burgers are pretty good, but like Shake Shack the fries taste like grocery store freezer aisle. And the menu is so limited. Net/net, a very good burger, but I just dont understand the cult fascination.
Not my favorite fries but it helps if you order them extra crispy. The burger to price ratio is unmatched IMO. They dont try to be everything to everyone and it allows them to focus on just making a good fresh burger. They also were the early adopters of paying staff a decent wage (for Fast Food anyhow).
 

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My family preferences with a skiing tie in.

When my kids have Highschool ski races/training sessions at Mount Southington in CT.

On our way home, and I am the assistant coach so I am there every session, we have a Chick Fil-A about 5 minutes away on the way home in Southington, and a Shake Shack about 10 minutes away on the way home in Farmington (both are maybe a 1/2 mile off I-84 which we take to get home). We're roughly 2/3rds Chick Fil-A and 1/3rd Shake Shack in my family.

To me, the entrees at Chick Fil-A are better, but Shake Shack has better fries!
 

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I do think the cult following of Shake Shack (and I suspect the same with Chick-a-FilA) is over the top and unworthy.

But, it's a good burger joint. And that's about it. I wouldn't go out of my way for it.

It's not the fault of Shake Shack for their "fame". People just have a tendency to overhype things. Restaurants are no exceptions. I've visited many of such overhyped places in my life. A decent, but nothing special Japanese restaurant in the village everyone rave about turned out to be just... a decent one! You get my drift... Almost all of them are good in their own right. Few live up to "the fame" though. And some of them, I felt disappointed because of too much expectation.

That said, I think SS is exactly what I like to see more of (minus the hype). I don't think of it as a "fast food". Partly because it isn't exactly fast. It's a casual joint that most just take out, but it's not cheaply done, nor cheap. It's decent food, without the fuss. Reasonably price for the quality, not pretense.
 
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I can’t stand the trend of non-franchise restaurants to sell burgers that even Godzilla can’t get his mouth around. I want to be able to take a reasonable bite and taste everything.

And am I the only one who thinks that B.Good is “meh”?
 
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The Bench at Stowe is great..never had a bad thing there. Harrisons is the best place I've been to in town if you can get in. Always booked..So crowded no one goes there....
 
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