jimmywilson69
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Stowe was always more conservative than say Sugarbush with opening terrain. Now that Vail owns them I'm not surprised that they are keeping the "safety" of their guests in mind
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Powdr is going FastPass at Copper, K, Snowbird and Bachelor
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kingslug
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At times I was glad they did...sometimes closed...means ....mess..
That is ironic considering that Stowe was owned by AIG, an insurance company.......
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Mt. Bachelor is one of Powdr’s four resorts that will implement the new and controversial Fast Tracks pass this winter, which allows guests to pay extra to skip lift lines. The pass will let anybody skip the regular lines on all but three of Bachelor’s lifts on the day they purchase it. It’s a...
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And their unofficial poll had a 93% opposed, 7% in favor. ONE person commented in favor (the token POWDR employee no doubt
) and 24 commented against it. 
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jimmywilson69
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John Cumming must really be an idiot...
ss20
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The comments on Snowbird's social media stream are DEFINATELY worth your time to read the comments...its hilarious.
How many are from trailboss?
Others are chiming in.How many are from trailboss?
Damn, shit’s getting real!
jimmywilson69
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I'm not sure the whole public land thing has much of a leg to stand on. Its no different than Alta not allowing snowboards, yes its antiquated, but they are permitted to run their business as they please within their permitted area.
I'd imagine even John Cumming has a lawyer that is at least that competent, but who knows...
I'd imagine even John Cumming has a lawyer that is at least that competent, but who knows...
kingslug
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Its kind of the opposite of what Vail recently tried to put across..more equality for all. At least after Katz's message..Vail won't try this.
Personally, I can‘t believe a U.S. Senator actually spent time on this. I guess that goes along with his proposal to mandate 26 weeks of unemployment benefits. How about actually working on real issues like infrastructure issues in ports and freight rail systems?
I honestly could give 2 shits about this, It will have the same impact on me as a ski instructor cutting the line with his group- NONE. Or the people that bought a place at Claybrook - none! Fast lanes exist everywhere. Have you been to an airport? TSA Pre, Global Entry and CLEAR - you pay an additional fee and guess what - you cut the line.
ok people,… have at it!
I honestly could give 2 shits about this, It will have the same impact on me as a ski instructor cutting the line with his group- NONE. Or the people that bought a place at Claybrook - none! Fast lanes exist everywhere. Have you been to an airport? TSA Pre, Global Entry and CLEAR - you pay an additional fee and guess what - you cut the line.
ok people,… have at it!
drjeff
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Politics rules of today 101....
Always better to create a "new" problem than actually do something that solves an actual problem! Much easier to keep raising campaign funds that way by projecting all of the "problems" to one's base!
Great take from the storm skiing journal: https://www.stormskiing.com/p/thanks-for-the-thousand-dollars-now
All I can say is, wow. I have been listening to his podcast on and off for a few months. He was probably the last guy I figured that would unleash this kind of honest assessment. But hey, he did. He is also correct that while the idea may not be a great one the fact that they unrolled it after selling season passes is a major PR disaster. Last night Snowbird posted on Facebook a picture of them making snow. I can only think that this was to try to distract the angry locals. However, it is six weeks before they’re scheduled to open and it’s supposed to warm up next week. Seems like an awful waste of money to me.
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Hilarious!
"Any burnout who has wandered around a Six Flags after snorting a gram of shroom brownies at any point in the past decade has seen the fast pass lane and thought, “Man I hope they don’t try to pull that shit skiing.”"
"Any burnout who has wandered around a Six Flags after snorting a gram of shroom brownies at any point in the past decade has seen the fast pass lane and thought, “Man I hope they don’t try to pull that shit skiing.”"
VTKilarney
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Frankly, the only thing that surprises me is how long it has taken the ski industry to adopt this model. Expect more services to be un-bundled and more add-ons in the future.
KustyTheKlown
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i agree completely that its ridiculous for senator wyden to get involved in this, even if a staffer wrote that e-mail and he just signed his name to it and it took no more than 90 seconds of his time. like, we're struggling to pass two historic pieces of extremely important legislation to bring our physical and social infrastructure into the 21st century, and a united states senator is crying to powdr corp about an amusement park fast pass? jesus fuckin christ.
NYDB
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I'm actually fine with it, just tell us before you sell seasons passes (or offer 100% no questions asked refunds) so we know what the hell we are buying.
Big Sky let everyone know upfront that the tram would be extra and restricted this year unless you paid for their highest dollar pass. Thats fine in my book
Just don't spring the poor door on me after I already purchased.
machski
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On the snowmaking front, maybe. But Big Sky did the same and they don't open til Thanksgiving. Both received copious amounts of mid October snow. So to blow on top of that to start to build a base isn't a waste IMHO. It's smart, especially if they leave the gun smoke in huge whales. Sure some will melt down, but not likely all of it. Giving them something to start to build on later
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