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RIP James Brown

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I was saddened to learn that James Brown passed away this morning. The man had his ups and downs but was certainly one of the most influential musicians ever.

My favorite James Brown song? The Payback..."I don't know Karate, but I know crazy!"
 

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I was saddened to learn that James Brown passed away this morning. The man had his ups and downs but was certainly one of the most influential musicians ever.
RIP Mr. James Brown, thank you for your amazing contributions both musically and culturally. As a musician myself, I would rank James Brown as one of the top three most influential musicians of the previous century, though he continued touring into the current century. I am saddened to learn of his death as well, but the man lived one heck of a life and I appreciate his work.
 

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Yup... RIP ...

As a drummer - his music was definately a major force at what I've become musically.. The tightness of his stuff is ledgendary.. And when the jam gets crazy - i center myself rythmically in my "JB mode" concetrating on tightening my beats and hitting on the 1... And it always brings things back to earth...

"I wanna count it off one more time now
(Go ahead!)
You wanna hear it like it did on the top fellas?
(Yeah!)
Hear it like it did on the top?
(Yeah!)
Hit it now!

Get on up, (get on up)
Get up, (get on up)
Get up, (get on up)
Get on up, (get on up)

Stay on the scene, (get on up), like a lovin' machine, (get on up)
Get up, (get on up)

Taste, (get on up)
Bein', (get on up)
Taste, (get on up)
Bein', (get on up)
 

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Who are number one and two?
i guess that question does make my suggestion of a top three influential artist seem kinda silly, heh. so many artists with so much influence, perhaps i should have said one of the most influential instead of suggesting a top three ranking. there were certainly many masters of their craft... i could think of many that would be up there. i can't think of any off the top of my head that i would rank up there without reservation. the cross genre impact and influence of brown can not be under rated, few artists ever achieve such cross genre influence. rock, funk, soul, fusion, rap, hip hop, electronica, etc. so much of today's music has direct or indirect routes to the man. i have a hard time thinking of many other artists that achieved such influence, none during my life time at least, though i might have a long list of candidates from before my time and most of that list would be pre-60s.
 

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In the 20th century, #1 has to be Louis Armstrong, without whom jazz would never have really taken off, and therefore, rock and roll would never have existed. In my personal opinion, there is no other popular musician even close.

#2 is probably way open for debate, though. Elvis? He brought black music to the white audience. Leonard Bernstein? He connected classical music with Broadway and the mainstream prior to the rock explosion. Bing Crosby? I think he still holds the record for most #1 hits. Gotta give him his props. Miles? Bird? Chuck Berry? Duke Ellington? George Gershwin?


Maybe it was Frank Zappa after all....................;)
 

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armstrong and duke definitely are up there. miles gets points for crossing over to hip hop and fusion type stuff later in his career. not sure i would say he had the same influence as others, definitely a big influence in the jazz world... can't see much beyond though. i would rank elvis very high as an influential musician of the 1900s. how about herbie hancock? another cross over artist that featured one of the earliest hip hop songs (back when hip hop really was hip hop) that featured one of the first big "scratch" segments in a mainstream song. rockit aside, hancock may not have the top hits, but i think he made some great and influential music. i would not have thought of bernstein, good call. aaron copland was pretty significant i think as well. and jimi hendrix probably gets the nod as the most influential musician from the 60s forward.
 

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Let's not forget composers like Prokofiev and Rachmaninoff were 20th century. Also, let's not forget names like Muddy Waters, Les Paul... and what about Benny Goodman, Glenn Miller and Leroy Anderson in the jazz/big band list... there were too many highly influential musicions in last century to give any of them a definitive ranking.

Good call on the Hendrix, RC, though with the Beatles and Zepplin, I think even that's up for debate.
 

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In my personal opinion, there is no other popular musician even close.

But he said influential, not popular. If you are not familiar with Robert Johnson, I highly recommend checking out his stuff. Muddy Waters, BB King, Elvis, Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Keith Richards all have paid homage to his influence.

http://www.rockhall.com/hof/inductee.asp?id=134
http://www.robertjohnsonbluesfoundation.org/Bio.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnson_(musician)
 

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My personal early type influences:
Ornette Coleman/Dave Brubeck... Jazz
JB.. Funk
Elvis/Buddy Holly... rock

Music has been influenced since some guy started beating on a rock....
 

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My personal early type influences:
Ornette Coleman/Dave Brubeck... Jazz
JB.. Funk
Elvis/Buddy Holly... rock

Music has been influenced since some guy started beating on a rock....

It is this last one by which I have most been influenced.
 

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But he said influential, not popular...........

When I used the term "popular" it was intended to mean someone that had reached a wide audience. Influence is certainly what we are discussing, and in my opinion, there is no musician close to Louis Armstrong in his impact on jazz, rock and even blues, all of which are considered "popular" music.

I am very familiar with Robert Johnson and his music, but unfortunately his impact on the the evolution of rock (Cream, Stones, Zep, etc etc), didn't happen until well after his death, while Louis Armstrong is from the same era and had a much larger impact immediately and for many years over a much wider spectrum of musical types. Johnson was a great while Satchmo is truly immortal.

I don't really know enough about classical music to comment on Rachmaninoff and Prokofiev. The only classical composers I'm somewhat familiar with in the 20th century are American (Bernstein, Copeland, etc). Stravinsky (Firebird Suite, Rites of Spring) is often mentioned as a major 20th century classcial composer, but I don't know enough to get into that, so I stuck to "popular" and primarily American musicians.

My 2 cents.
 
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