Skiology, LLC v. Bramble
Trademark case filed on January 27, 2023 in the Vermont District Court
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Skiology Matt in Litigation
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Matt on ny ski blog arguing his case don't like him at glad I left his Facebook flgroup last year: and several months ag
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Skiology... What's your take?
Jeez I just saw an update on where Matt's case is...Jesus Matt cant let sh*t go.
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KustyTheKlown
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Jesus Christ. This guy is a waste of ink
jimmywilson69
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I shouldn't discuss litigation in public, but I'm going to anyways...
Interesting tid bit. I googled skiology (Which I have been aware of for many years going to Killington) and Matt's site come up first. Skiology ski shop comes up right next to it as Google Maps info. And this thread is the 6th web link
Interesting tid bit. I googled skiology (Which I have been aware of for many years going to Killington) and Matt's site come up first. Skiology ski shop comes up right next to it as Google Maps info. And this thread is the 6th web link
His post over there is hilarious, dude really thinks there is some grand conspiracy against him…
“I have yet to see a single comment discussing this lawsuit nor my actions that is accurate. If you see a claim that maybe looks plausible or truthy, consider the source and their deminor, and demand proof of their claims before believing them otherwise you may become part of the lie. Third, most of the people on various forums besides this one are the same small group of people who have an agenda to do me harm, in fact one of them operates over a dozen aliases and has even impersonated me. That cyberstalking campaign started on March 20, 2020 immediately after the COVID closures based on political beliefs that I would not allow to infect my group when we needed to all work for the greater good.”
“I have yet to see a single comment discussing this lawsuit nor my actions that is accurate. If you see a claim that maybe looks plausible or truthy, consider the source and their deminor, and demand proof of their claims before believing them otherwise you may become part of the lie. Third, most of the people on various forums besides this one are the same small group of people who have an agenda to do me harm, in fact one of them operates over a dozen aliases and has even impersonated me. That cyberstalking campaign started on March 20, 2020 immediately after the COVID closures based on political beliefs that I would not allow to infect my group when we needed to all work for the greater good.”
Going to copy his post (textual diarrhea) over to here for posterity.
Source NYskiblog.com
Hey guys, I just want to clear the air about some things. First off, you really don't want to discuss litigation in public when you are trying to negotiate in good faith. This isn't national news, it's a civil disagreement between two parties and if it was straightforward there would have been an injunction against my business 9 months ago. Secondly, I have yet to see a single comment discussing this lawsuit nor my actions that is accurate. If you see a claim that maybe looks plausible or truthy, consider the source and their deminor, and demand proof of their claims before believing them otherwise you may become part of the lie. Third, most of the people on various forums besides this one are the same small group of people who have an agenda to do me harm, in fact one of them operates over a dozen aliases and has even impersonated me. That cyberstalking campaign started on March 20, 2020 immediately after the COVID closures based on political beliefs that I would not allow to infect my group when we needed to all work for the greater good.
Regarding my own actions in relation to adopting the Skiology name, I can offer that when I chose this name for my business in December of 2018, almost 5 years ago, I did a thorough search for all other uses of the name and was unaware of this small ski shop until quite a while later after multiple public actions and announcements including an interview I did with Harvey in May of 2019. Discovering this ski shop was not possible through reasonable means when I did my search otherwise I would have found them. They didn't have a trademark, their business registration had been terminated shortly before my search, their logo was similar to the much better established Skiology Chalets in the UK which dominated search results at that time, and their website likely experienced changes and downtime based on the historical record on archive.org during a period of more than 2 years which likely affected my ability to find them in Google. I obviously can't prove a negative, but I would have chosen a different name at that time if I had known about this ski shop's existence just simply to avoid even the possibility of random people thinking that I copied someone else's name, and I wanted as unique of a name as possible since that is the way people find my business. I'm sure we were both disappointed to learn about each other when we did almost a year after our initial launch, I certainly was. They waited well over 3 more years to contact me and file suit. We filed our answer in court about 10 days ago, truthfully denied a great deal of what was claimed, and that will have to serve as all I can offer about the case itself for the time being and quite possibly forever if it is settled. If you are a lawyer then you surely get it. It may be unsatisfying to your curiosities, but that's how it works and It's not like I don't want to defend myself more fully from some of the claims being made, I most certainly do. I would rather talk about skiing and riding though of course.
As far as my business goes, we finally launched a long, long overdue subscription service this summer. I had intended to do this in 2020 but with the pandemic and then deaths of loved ones in the next two summers I was incapable of making the leap. This summer of course I am being sued and there are serious health concerns among two more people I love, but I trimmed my plans for how to make the leap and have done so very successfully in this first phase, thank God! People need to remember that I'm a human being and a regular guy just like you all. Life happens, and it's hurtful and harmful to see people speculating about why I do what I do because they either want to do me harm or they simply think it's cool to talk about people on the internet. I don't like to make excuses in public or share personal details, but that shouldn't be carte blanche for others to speculate about. I run a very small business and I'm both the president and janitor. My goal is simply to help people have better ski days because I love sliding on snow and wanted to share my passion and what I knew with others. I do not desire to be a personality at all, but I have to serve a role. It is other people who in fact create most of the drama and this thread unfortunately has a fair deal. It was so much easier before the pandemic and with just 10,000 followers, but now I have 60,000 unique followers and not all of these people are right in the head or have good morals and ethics of course, and some people are unfortunately gullible and believe things they see on the internet without any actual proof. I don't expect all 60,000 people to like me, nor should you, it just doesn't work like that. If people don't like me then they should avoid me like any normal person would. If people find more value elsewhere, they should spend their money and their time with them instead. It's that simple.
In my group we don't allow any personal attacks, and a thread like this would never ever be allowed but Harvey sets his own rules and that's his right even if I might disagree. If you are wondering how my group became the biggest regional ski group in the world when it was started by a nobody outsider with limited experience at the time, it definitely wasn't due to drama because good people flee that on social media, but instead it benefitted from the lack of of drama in comparison to most other larger forums where trolls dominate. I of course work hard and take pride in my work, I try to provide value, and I try to maintain a safe and friendly environment. My goal this season is to sell subscriptions to maybe 5% to 7% of my following and eventually become an app with deterministic weather added and with zero social media interaction. We'll have sponsors, but I'm not going to sell out to the ski industry and carry their water because I want sponsorship money. I want Skiology to be for skiers and riders and be an honest resource, and not have it be simply yet another marketing wing of the industry where their money makes the news almost always good. We will likely always make the vast majority of our money from skiers and riders, and I prefer it that way.
I you guys have an honest question for me, then ask it here and I'll answer as long as it doesn't deal with the lawsuit. Seriously, if you really want to know the truth or what I actually think or did instead of speculating about it or believing some anonymous troll on the internet or possibly your own speculation, then just ask. I'm not scared of the truth and I welcome the opportunity to tell it.
Source NYskiblog.com
Hey guys, I just want to clear the air about some things. First off, you really don't want to discuss litigation in public when you are trying to negotiate in good faith. This isn't national news, it's a civil disagreement between two parties and if it was straightforward there would have been an injunction against my business 9 months ago. Secondly, I have yet to see a single comment discussing this lawsuit nor my actions that is accurate. If you see a claim that maybe looks plausible or truthy, consider the source and their deminor, and demand proof of their claims before believing them otherwise you may become part of the lie. Third, most of the people on various forums besides this one are the same small group of people who have an agenda to do me harm, in fact one of them operates over a dozen aliases and has even impersonated me. That cyberstalking campaign started on March 20, 2020 immediately after the COVID closures based on political beliefs that I would not allow to infect my group when we needed to all work for the greater good.
Regarding my own actions in relation to adopting the Skiology name, I can offer that when I chose this name for my business in December of 2018, almost 5 years ago, I did a thorough search for all other uses of the name and was unaware of this small ski shop until quite a while later after multiple public actions and announcements including an interview I did with Harvey in May of 2019. Discovering this ski shop was not possible through reasonable means when I did my search otherwise I would have found them. They didn't have a trademark, their business registration had been terminated shortly before my search, their logo was similar to the much better established Skiology Chalets in the UK which dominated search results at that time, and their website likely experienced changes and downtime based on the historical record on archive.org during a period of more than 2 years which likely affected my ability to find them in Google. I obviously can't prove a negative, but I would have chosen a different name at that time if I had known about this ski shop's existence just simply to avoid even the possibility of random people thinking that I copied someone else's name, and I wanted as unique of a name as possible since that is the way people find my business. I'm sure we were both disappointed to learn about each other when we did almost a year after our initial launch, I certainly was. They waited well over 3 more years to contact me and file suit. We filed our answer in court about 10 days ago, truthfully denied a great deal of what was claimed, and that will have to serve as all I can offer about the case itself for the time being and quite possibly forever if it is settled. If you are a lawyer then you surely get it. It may be unsatisfying to your curiosities, but that's how it works and It's not like I don't want to defend myself more fully from some of the claims being made, I most certainly do. I would rather talk about skiing and riding though of course.
As far as my business goes, we finally launched a long, long overdue subscription service this summer. I had intended to do this in 2020 but with the pandemic and then deaths of loved ones in the next two summers I was incapable of making the leap. This summer of course I am being sued and there are serious health concerns among two more people I love, but I trimmed my plans for how to make the leap and have done so very successfully in this first phase, thank God! People need to remember that I'm a human being and a regular guy just like you all. Life happens, and it's hurtful and harmful to see people speculating about why I do what I do because they either want to do me harm or they simply think it's cool to talk about people on the internet. I don't like to make excuses in public or share personal details, but that shouldn't be carte blanche for others to speculate about. I run a very small business and I'm both the president and janitor. My goal is simply to help people have better ski days because I love sliding on snow and wanted to share my passion and what I knew with others. I do not desire to be a personality at all, but I have to serve a role. It is other people who in fact create most of the drama and this thread unfortunately has a fair deal. It was so much easier before the pandemic and with just 10,000 followers, but now I have 60,000 unique followers and not all of these people are right in the head or have good morals and ethics of course, and some people are unfortunately gullible and believe things they see on the internet without any actual proof. I don't expect all 60,000 people to like me, nor should you, it just doesn't work like that. If people don't like me then they should avoid me like any normal person would. If people find more value elsewhere, they should spend their money and their time with them instead. It's that simple.
In my group we don't allow any personal attacks, and a thread like this would never ever be allowed but Harvey sets his own rules and that's his right even if I might disagree. If you are wondering how my group became the biggest regional ski group in the world when it was started by a nobody outsider with limited experience at the time, it definitely wasn't due to drama because good people flee that on social media, but instead it benefitted from the lack of of drama in comparison to most other larger forums where trolls dominate. I of course work hard and take pride in my work, I try to provide value, and I try to maintain a safe and friendly environment. My goal this season is to sell subscriptions to maybe 5% to 7% of my following and eventually become an app with deterministic weather added and with zero social media interaction. We'll have sponsors, but I'm not going to sell out to the ski industry and carry their water because I want sponsorship money. I want Skiology to be for skiers and riders and be an honest resource, and not have it be simply yet another marketing wing of the industry where their money makes the news almost always good. We will likely always make the vast majority of our money from skiers and riders, and I prefer it that way.
I you guys have an honest question for me, then ask it here and I'll answer as long as it doesn't deal with the lawsuit. Seriously, if you really want to know the truth or what I actually think or did instead of speculating about it or believing some anonymous troll on the internet or possibly your own speculation, then just ask. I'm not scared of the truth and I welcome the opportunity to tell it.
KustyTheKlown
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I clicked on that link from Scotty this morning (while taking a shit at 5:30 AM), saw Matt's post, read the entire thing (while taking a shit at 5:30 AM)...and decided "i must sign up for an account on another ski forum to engage with this right now". So very easily triggered...
Looks like he is trying to appease me. It didn't work.
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Every off-season Snowology likes to recognize some exceptional things related to the eastern ski industry, and recently we asked our followers who the most underrated ski area is in the East. While we received many hundreds of answers identifying many great ski areas for a variety of reasons, one of
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"an answer to Skiology Matt" who recently posted an explanation for his stealing the name of the skiology shop in Killington for his Weather forecasting business. https://nyskiblog.com/.../skiology-whats-your.../post-62565
Matt - as someone who has shaken your hand in the early days of your "business" quest, I know much about what you are stating here in this forum and how much you are lying. It's clear that, as others stated in the now closed thread, that you are trying to create a narrative that sounds plausible for your legal entanglement.
Having been a past participant in the clownology group, I know first hand why people dislike you. - So let's get things straight, no one wants to actually hurt you, or "go after" you in a physical manner. this is your own machination. People want to laugh at you and go after you to get a reaction, which thankfully you hand out frequently, but often it's using your moderation powers within your facebook group.
When there is a discussion about ski or snowboard tuning, or about ski areas, or virtually any subject you are not expert on, you act like a total narcissist and shut down, delete and even kick people out of the group for having a differing opinion than your own. Yes, you are a pretty good weather hobbiest/ forecaster who went in deep on their hobby, but that doesn't make you knowledgeable of all things skiing & boarding, especially since you have only been in the sport for 6 years.
Frankly, the best way to sum up how you come across is by calling out the name you probably hate the most in this world, Trump. I am not trying to be political, but since I know where your politics are, you come across exactly like Trump, on ALL subjects in your precious little group - "I alone..." know everything about everything. "You all should be thankful I put this stuff up for free in the hope that some of you will pay me money." The joke about all of this is that you rip off almost all of your content and maps from yet another weather hobbyist on the web. It's also funny to me that you have spies in various groups screenshotting the content for you. I know first hand from another past clownology member who you thought they were your friend and you approached them to send you a list of everyone in the group, etc. Do you really not care who dislikes you? It's also amazing how you will stop at nothing to trash other people, hurt their reputations and not have a care about it at all. For instance the employee at Mt Snow a couple of years ago, the visible names you posted this week in your screen shot of the clownology group, etc. Curious, why did you blur one name but not the other three, do you have a vendetta against those three people? Lastly, why do you get to have a name that violates Facebook's terms of service? You expect everyone else to be on the up and up, but rules don't apply to you?
Let's get down to the real matter here. The lawsuit with The ski shop. You claim you did a search, really? did you hire an IP lawyer to do that for you? an expert in the topic? or was it on your own given that you believe you are expert on everything? Here's what I think happened: on one of your many visits to Killington during your first year or two of snowboarding(visible in FB posts), that you saw the shop name and thought it would be a good name after all you have proclaimed - "I am not a weatherman, I am a skiologist." Do tell us how you actually thought of the name. I am reminded of this scene from Working Girl https://youtu.be/m8WRHX2t_hE?si=nWN07zGCYwGB3wfd -
You probably went out searching for the domain to buy(you are in the internet hosting biz, so you understand how this works), and found out (as the ski shop did) that a Canadian owned the domain and had used it for something else. Being a guy in the web business, you got them to sell you the name and somehow you think that gave you the right to name and to then shit all over the reputation a small business that spent years building their local reputation in Killington. A family that invested in rent, inventory and all things a brick and mortar business requires, not sitting on their coach prognosticating plagiarized reposts about weather.
While you may not have done anything "illegal," your business morals are questionable at best. btw, I know personally that you knew of the the ski shop when you and I met pre pandemic, because YOU told me about it. This makes you a liar on all sorts of things. The joke is that you see no harm in utilizing a name that someone else created and even told me to my face that "it didn't matter that you had the same name because I am weather and they are a ski shop." Lastly Matt, why do YOU always have drama surrounding you? why do you always have to silence people that have differing opinions than yourself? you should be happy that people come to your facebook group and offer their expertise and tips to others, just as you dove into weather, many people have expertise on many facets of snowsports and ski areas that you cannot even begin to scratch the surface of. Instead, you silence them, kick them out of your group and create more drama. btw, think the Trump comparison is unfair? He raises $ for an election but spends it on attorneys. You beg for money on your facebook group and have spent it not on web development, but on.... Legal fees, having paid at least two attorney retainers. I am curious, why did you fire the first attorney? Guessing they told you that the right thing was to settle and you narcissism kicked in telling you otherwise.so, do us all a favor, stop the lies, if you really are leaving facebook and have found a thousand suckers to pay you money for that which they can easily find for free on the web, good for you Mr Barnum, but please stop being like Mr Trump and thinking the world is out to get you, just because.
Matt - as someone who has shaken your hand in the early days of your "business" quest, I know much about what you are stating here in this forum and how much you are lying. It's clear that, as others stated in the now closed thread, that you are trying to create a narrative that sounds plausible for your legal entanglement.
Having been a past participant in the clownology group, I know first hand why people dislike you. - So let's get things straight, no one wants to actually hurt you, or "go after" you in a physical manner. this is your own machination. People want to laugh at you and go after you to get a reaction, which thankfully you hand out frequently, but often it's using your moderation powers within your facebook group.
When there is a discussion about ski or snowboard tuning, or about ski areas, or virtually any subject you are not expert on, you act like a total narcissist and shut down, delete and even kick people out of the group for having a differing opinion than your own. Yes, you are a pretty good weather hobbiest/ forecaster who went in deep on their hobby, but that doesn't make you knowledgeable of all things skiing & boarding, especially since you have only been in the sport for 6 years.
Frankly, the best way to sum up how you come across is by calling out the name you probably hate the most in this world, Trump. I am not trying to be political, but since I know where your politics are, you come across exactly like Trump, on ALL subjects in your precious little group - "I alone..." know everything about everything. "You all should be thankful I put this stuff up for free in the hope that some of you will pay me money." The joke about all of this is that you rip off almost all of your content and maps from yet another weather hobbyist on the web. It's also funny to me that you have spies in various groups screenshotting the content for you. I know first hand from another past clownology member who you thought they were your friend and you approached them to send you a list of everyone in the group, etc. Do you really not care who dislikes you? It's also amazing how you will stop at nothing to trash other people, hurt their reputations and not have a care about it at all. For instance the employee at Mt Snow a couple of years ago, the visible names you posted this week in your screen shot of the clownology group, etc. Curious, why did you blur one name but not the other three, do you have a vendetta against those three people? Lastly, why do you get to have a name that violates Facebook's terms of service? You expect everyone else to be on the up and up, but rules don't apply to you?
Let's get down to the real matter here. The lawsuit with The ski shop. You claim you did a search, really? did you hire an IP lawyer to do that for you? an expert in the topic? or was it on your own given that you believe you are expert on everything? Here's what I think happened: on one of your many visits to Killington during your first year or two of snowboarding(visible in FB posts), that you saw the shop name and thought it would be a good name after all you have proclaimed - "I am not a weatherman, I am a skiologist." Do tell us how you actually thought of the name. I am reminded of this scene from Working Girl https://youtu.be/m8WRHX2t_hE?si=nWN07zGCYwGB3wfd -
You probably went out searching for the domain to buy(you are in the internet hosting biz, so you understand how this works), and found out (as the ski shop did) that a Canadian owned the domain and had used it for something else. Being a guy in the web business, you got them to sell you the name and somehow you think that gave you the right to name and to then shit all over the reputation a small business that spent years building their local reputation in Killington. A family that invested in rent, inventory and all things a brick and mortar business requires, not sitting on their coach prognosticating plagiarized reposts about weather.
While you may not have done anything "illegal," your business morals are questionable at best. btw, I know personally that you knew of the the ski shop when you and I met pre pandemic, because YOU told me about it. This makes you a liar on all sorts of things. The joke is that you see no harm in utilizing a name that someone else created and even told me to my face that "it didn't matter that you had the same name because I am weather and they are a ski shop." Lastly Matt, why do YOU always have drama surrounding you? why do you always have to silence people that have differing opinions than yourself? you should be happy that people come to your facebook group and offer their expertise and tips to others, just as you dove into weather, many people have expertise on many facets of snowsports and ski areas that you cannot even begin to scratch the surface of. Instead, you silence them, kick them out of your group and create more drama. btw, think the Trump comparison is unfair? He raises $ for an election but spends it on attorneys. You beg for money on your facebook group and have spent it not on web development, but on.... Legal fees, having paid at least two attorney retainers. I am curious, why did you fire the first attorney? Guessing they told you that the right thing was to settle and you narcissism kicked in telling you otherwise.so, do us all a favor, stop the lies, if you really are leaving facebook and have found a thousand suckers to pay you money for that which they can easily find for free on the web, good for you Mr Barnum, but please stop being like Mr Trump and thinking the world is out to get you, just because.
Harvey
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Hey @deadheadskier could you do me a solid and remove that image from the post above? NYSkiBlog owns the right to it, and we are not granting permission for this usage. Thanks.
Just curious, why’d you take down the Thread about skiology - was it causing too much traffic to your site?
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Could you possibly provide this screen shot, please? Everything you said is spot on.
BodeMiller1
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What?I shouldn't discuss litigation in public, but I'm going to anyways...
Interesting tid bit. I googled skiology (Which I have been aware of for many years going to Killington) and Matt's site come up first. Skiology ski shop comes up right next to it as Google Maps info. And this thread is the 6th web link
So Skiology Guy is paying Google to go to the head of the line
. Butt yet, he has brought unwanted "eyes" to his demise.What?
Who can he pay to scrub this cluster from hiding eyes?
It is now more important than ever to fund this guy so he can take over the world as planned. Please open your wallets. This in all seriousness could be worse than cat juggling.
JW69 why should you be silent? Are you a member of a bar or a Russian Insurgent?
Either way is okay; both are kind of cryptic in a down low kind of way. If the latter nice job getting the hypersonics in theater. It's neat you guys found something that actually works.
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jimmywilson69
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no I was talking about Matts post on Harvey's NYSkiblog. He basically says I shouldn't comment on litigation but then continues to comment on it in a public forum.
Dude is a narcsissistic loser. He should just disappear. its really strange that someone like him can exist
Dude is a narcsissistic loser. He should just disappear. its really strange that someone like him can exist
He takes easily accessible information, copy and pastes it then acts like he created it all. Perfect gaper bait, they love to be spoon fed.
I think your theory is 100% spot on! He saw the name driving up the Killington access road and thought that is a very cool name for what he does and decided to try and buy the domain.
I love your handle btw,... Hot Dog!
jimmywilson69
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Its amazing how dumb the human race is...
You would need to ask Nick. Moderators don't have the option to edit posts, only delete them
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