Snowboard Ban???

[thetrailboss]

Love it or hate it? It has really spawned a massive discussion in the sister thread: "MRG's Single Chair Set for Renovations (?)" (See http://forums.alpinezone.com/viewtopic.php?t=3925 )

Sound off.

 

[Greg]

Here we go...

:flame: :angry:

:uzi: :dunce: :smash:

uke:

 

[thetrailboss]

Here we go...

:flame: :angry:

:uzi: :dunce: :smash:

uke:

Figured that we needed to start a thread here on the issue...

 

[dmc]

Whatever...
You guys really have the wrong impression of me..

I really wish these kind of threads didnt exist...
It's sad...

I've worked very hard to be a respectible alpinist/mountaineer who just happens to snowboard..
And the same crap retold and rehashed just makes me ill...

I suffer for the sins of others is what it comes down to.. And that BS in my book...

 

[thetrailboss]

Whatever...
You guys really have the wrong impression of me..

I don't have any :evil: impression of you...just figured that it would be better to have a thread on this issue. Glad to have you here! :wink:

 

[dmc]

Whatever...
You guys really have the wrong impression of me..

I don't have any :evil: impression of you...just figured that it would be better to have a thread on this issue. Glad to have you here! :wink:

This will be my last post in the thread.. I though my posts in the other were appropriate.. Any talk of the MRG chair must have snowboard issues mixed in..(IMHO)

I'm not wasting anymore bandwidth on this issue in this forum.. Cause I don't want to hear the same crap again...

Next time a snowboarder helps you out on the hill - just thank them and tell someone about it...

 

[Vortex]

Can of worms. does not matter. We need boarders telemarkers, snow bikes , Skiers, teleboards. Cafeteria trays. Its all about the money. Good and bad in any group.

 

[RISkier]

My take is that the skier/snowboarder debate is less about what people ride and more about the demographics of those riding them. Indeed, watching a boarder carve beautiful carved turns down a slope is really pretty. But who boards. Look at almost any crime or accident data. The teens and early 20s are the high crime, high accident years -- especially for males. Auto fatality rates for 16 and 17 year olds are astronomically high in comparison to adults -- some of that is inexperience and some of it is wrecklessness. I don't know how I and my friends survived our youth. There's even research that indicates the brain doesn't fully mature until about 25 or so. So who seems to ride boards. My observation is that teens tend to gravitate toward boarding and most (certainly not all) boarders are young, and a substantial majority are male. If they were on skis they'd still be wreckless as hell. The world would be a safer place if all males were kep in a deep state of hibernation between the ages of 12 and 25 :lol: . My one gripe that's intrinsic to boarding is that it appears to me that relatively unskilled boarders can go down just about anything by slide slipping and it tends to scrape off the snow. But in general, I have no problem with boarding. I do have a problem with rude and wreckless behaviors on the slopes whether it's skiers or boarders.

 

[ctenidae]

Can't say I'd support a ban everywhere, or that I hate MRG's ban, or that I dislike boarders.
However, it's the resort's own business. They want to ban boards, they'll ban them. You may not agree with the decision, but you can't really do anything about it. There is no "good" reason to ban snowboards. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, just that there is no truly defensible reason for it.

 

[Brettski]

OTHER:

Put all the noob skiiers and or boarders in school. Should be part of the lift ticket.

Then all the rude and dangerous behavior from either group should get clipped.

 

[Greg]

This will be my last post in the thread..

OMG. Lighten up. This is your chance to shine...

I though my posts in the other were appropriate.. Any talk of the MRG chair must have snowboard issues mixed in..(IMHO)

Agreed. To a point. After things went around and around three or four times, it became nauseating and took the thread way off topic...

I'm not wasting anymore bandwidth on this issue in this forum.. Cause I don't want to hear the same crap again...

Next time a snowboarder helps you out on the hill - just thank them and tell someone about it...

Your points on this topic are valid for the most part, IMHO. Also, your quest to reverse the stereotype is honerable, but like the MRG ban you're just spinning your wheels. Oh, and fess up - you love this debate...

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Well ive got run into by 3 boarders and zero skiers so far this year, all 3 were about 16 or so id say. I dont have anything against them however. Its like a car, when you were 16 you drove it a little fast until you had that bad accident, then you became mellow afterwards. There is hope the accidents will come, just not into me. hehe

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Nothing against you of course DMC but i think theres a serious lack of responsibitly problem with alot of boarders, especially the younger ones. When i wipe out while skiing, i usually say what the hell just happened, when a boarder wipes out i usually here him or her yell over to their friends "DUDE DID YOU JUST SEE THAT"

 

[JimG.]

Nothing against you of course DMC but i think theres a serious lack of responsibitly problem with alot of boarders, especially the younger ones. When i wipe out while skiing, i usually say what the hell just happened, when a boarder wipes out i usually here him or her yell over to their friends "DUDE DID YOU JUST SEE THAT"

The same irresponsibility issues that exist with young snowboarders exist with young skiers. Same thing, exactly. I've been taken out from behind twice this season, both times by SKIERS. So what? Should we ban all skiers now?

This isn't an issue about snowboarding or about one group in particular, it's about folks who want the whole hill to themselves for whatever reason. One little thing comes along to disturb the day and BAM, we gotta ban everyone because my day is now ruined. Selfish and lame.

Frankly, this discussion is lame.

 

[smootharc]

I liked it better when we argued over....

....who was the finest ski hottie....

Ah...the good old days....


:dunce: :lol:

 

[thetrailboss]

Frankly, this discussion is lame.

But it has attracted a lot of attention and has raised some good points for consideration.

 

[jimme]

Thought this war fizzled out a few years back. So there are a few ski areas that don't support snowboarding. Right now it makes them unique. . .that's their business and right as private landowners. My guess is that now it is also a marketing ploy.

At one time I thought "free the snow" was a good concept, but there are so few areas that don't support boarding that for me it's become a non-issue. Of course I ski so am not affected so that's easy for me to say. OTOH with only about four areas in the US prohibiting boarding I'd rather live with that than have some sort of government intervention forcing areas to support boarding.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Here we go...

:flame: :angry:

:uzi: :dunce: :smash:

uke:

Figured that we needed to start a thread here on the issue...

I'm laughing so hard I can't type. :lol:

I voted other..I think snowboarders should be allowed to ski at MRG. I am a two-planker.

I personally believe, in talking to the members I know, that it's the fear, paranoia and homaphobia connected with the stigmatized perception of who snowboarders are. I will forward one quote I heard, "they all have headphones on so when you say hi they totally ignore you" which I took as meaning anti-social.

Having said that I also realize MRG is privately owned and has the right to do whatever they feel is the best for them.

It seems I heard that there are snowboarders who are co-op members.

 

[BeanoNYC]

<------ put other. I don't mind snowboarders. Some of my best friends are....I just happen to ski.

 

[JimG.]

Frankly, this discussion is lame.

But it has attracted a lot of attention and has raised some good points for consideration.

It has attracted attention, but has done more to reinforce old stereotypes that have persisted for years than raise points for consideration IMHO. Folks who consider issues don't ban them and then consider them...banning things is exclusionary and I guess I'm sensitive to that.

Not saying you're lame for starting the discussion, just think it's played out at this point.