Terry Schiavo - RIP

[Jaime86]

Then let gays marry...I am all for it. I figure that if they are happy in life then it's better than if they were depressed and alone because in that state of mind they are more likely to kill themselves or to inflict pain onto others!

 

[dmc]

If it pisses you off then ignore it. No one said you had to believe in God. Yes, this is America and as much freedom as you have to not believe in God, I have the same ammouth of freedom to say that I do.

So believe - BUT keep you ideals away from me...
I'm not going to ignore this..

I feel the "religious right" is TOTALLY out of control right now... And GWB and cronies owe them for the election so it's just gonna get worse as they call in favors...

I WILL NOT IGNORE THIS! I am pissed off and I will stay that way until this friggin inquisition ends...

 

[Jaime86]

The huff and puff about it somewhere else. I have as much right to say I believe as you do telling me to keep it to myself. I HATE GWB...so don't use him to compare me. If I had my way, he wouldn't have even become president but since the electoral college votes have nothing to do with majority vote of the country...Kerry lost!

 

[Jaytrek57]

If you have faith, then miracles happen. God only helps those who believe.

What if....god wanted her with him and we, mere mortals were preventing that with machines? Of course, others "know" what god wants...so there is no debating the issue. :wink:

Does God only help those that believe a certain way?

If you can let me know in study hall, I would appreciate it. (Note: this last line was a joke approved by God....I know he has a sense of humor.)

 

[dmc]

The huff and puff about it somewhere else. I have as much right to say I believe as you do telling me to keep it to myself. I HATE GWB...so don't use him to compare me. If I had my way, he wouldn't have even become president but since the electoral college votes have nothing to do with majority vote of the country...Kerry lost!

So say whatever you want... I'm not stopping you...

Just don't be suprised if someone pushes back... Cause it's starting to happen all over the place..

We secular Americans are getting sick and tired of the legislation of morality by the current powers that be...

 

[Jaime86]

Does God only help those that believe a certain way?[/quote]

No God does not only help those who believe a certain way...but as long as you believe...he helps.

 

[Jaime86]

Well dmc...I am done fighting with you. I have said my peace and hopefully you have said yours.

 

[Jaytrek57]

No God does not only help those who believe a certain way...but as long as you believe...he helps.

???

So if my certain way of believing is that there is no god...he will still help me right?

Ticket to heaven without Sunday Mass and confession.

Cool.

 

[Jaime86]

lol. You believe right? It's the same concept as say Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny. Notice how when you stop believing in Santa, the presents you get at Christmas get fewer?

 

[dmc]

Well dmc...I am done fighting with you. I have said my peace and hopefully you have said yours.

I havent even begun to fight this issue...

 

[dmc]

Notice how when you stop believing in Santa, the presents you get at Christmas get fewer?

After I stopped believeing in Santa I started giving more..

 

[dmc]

(Note: this last line was a joke approved by God....I know he has a sense of humor.)

What did he appear on a tortilla and tell you he has a sense of humor?

 

[Jaime86]

Maybe he did dmc...why do you got to hate on people? Besides...we're getting way off topic now...this is about Terri...not tortillas!

 

[dmc]

Maybe he did dmc...why do you got to hate on people? Besides...we're getting way off topic now...this is about Terri...not tortillas!

I don't hate anybody for their beliefs...
I just don't want them changing laws for religious agendas...

FYI - Terri's dead... She's been dead for over a decade... And the courts back that up... The law of the land.. The law that also say if your married - your spouse is responsible for you...

 

[Jaime86]

Terri still had a heartbeat until recently...so therefore, she was still aliv and yes y machines...but she was alive...

 

[hammer]

Notice how when you stop believing in Santa, the presents you get at Christmas get fewer?

After I stopped believing in Santa I started giving more..

I hope no one here is comparing believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny with any religious beliefs...

In any case, I'd like to echo and expand a bit on dmc's point about beliefs. While a government can (and should) legislate morality at a "common" level (e.g., no murder, stealing, etc.), the moment that we start to bring religion (of ANY type) into government we will start to go down the slippery slope into a repressive society.

[Stepping off of soapbox for now...]

 

[Jaime86]

Religion should not be a part of government but it is and more than likely always will be. For example...when the government had the ten comandments taken out from in front of the court. They had no right stepping in on that. Just because you choose a different way to live your life doesn't mean that you have to impose on everyone else's. I thought we had a big thing about seperation of church and state...doesn't look that way to me. Not in the slightest.

 

[Jaime86]

And another thing...how the church bells ring...at certain times...just to let the people of that denomination of church know that it's time for them to pray or what not...but then at the same time...there is a controversy about the fact that in Detroit...there is a section of it that are foreigners and the way they announce prayer...isn't wanted by everyone else so therefore they are getting hounded for it...What ever happened to freedom of religion? Where has America gone?

 

[dmc]

Terri still had a heartbeat until recently...so therefore, she was still aliv and yes y machines...but she was alive...

Scientest can keep a heart beating in a jar... Does that mean it's alive?

So how do you feel about Sun Hudson??
He's the kid that had his breathing tube removed last month in Texas... He was actually coherent..
He had a disease that was killing him - the hospital decided to take him off the resperator. The mother begged for them not to do it but there's this thing
about a law in Texas...
The law stipulates that a Texas hospital, with the consent of a doctor and an ethics committee, can stop care deemed futile and too costly – even if the patient's legal guardian is against the action.


Our president that was SOOOOOOOOOOO into protecting life signed this very law into action as governor of Texas.. Do as i say not as I do...

Why didnt people line up to protect this kid?? Why wasnt Tom Delay upset about this one??

What - does the religious right now pick and choose what they will defend based upon wht's going to get their agenda further??

 

[Jaime86]

Screw Texas law...they had no right...to take that boys tube out...whether or not he was dying anyway...as long as the mother said no...they should not have had a say in the matter...none whatsoever!