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machski
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Interesting I. That the newer Audi/Porsche electrics appear to be understating their range per this test report. The only 3 or so vehicles that came out better than EPA estimates.I hate the push to electrification. It's too fast. The infrastructure is not there and the technology is not there for companies to be making only all-electric vehicles in the next 5 years. The new electric Silverado is getting "up to 400 miles on a charge". The "fast charging" method for public stations is 10 minutes=100 miles. To me, that's not yet practical. And the reality is that range will be a LOT less doing 75mph on the highway, in winter, with 2 other people in the car. Car and Driver tested this with the EV running at 75mph and recorded the range and compared it to the EPA estimates-
Hydrogen....if it ever gets off the ground.... is the way to go. More environmentally friendly than EV's. Full range with a simple gas station fill-up like traditional ICE vehicles. I think that's going to be where the industry heads long-term and EV's are a stop-gap measure in between as we wait for hydrogen infrastructure to catch up. Both the Hyundai Nexo and Toyota Mirai are picking up steam and their sales numbers are growing exponentially but they're still small numbers at this point.
machski
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Pretty sure that didn't use carbon nanocell fuelcell storage system.
Newpylong
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Makes me miss my wife's TDI. Car only cost us $26K new in 2011, got > 50 GPM constantly. The dieselgate buyback made it tough to keep it though at what they gave us.
Actually that was coming down not going up.
Smellytele
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My thought is when we all go electric , electricity will cost more and the grid will be over taxed. Trading one issue for others.
Edd
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I’m assuming that’s true already.
Dickc
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In many places, the grid is unable to support a string of houses trying to charge their vehicles all at once as its sized for the current (no pun intended) usage stats. Going to all electric vehicles will be a major pain until the grid is built out to support it, and ALL of us will be paying for that in higher rates even if we are driving a ras vehicle. As I got a new gas vehicle 5 months ago, I will be using gasoline for quite some time to come.
The new vehicle was gotten at just theright time as they gave me a big trade in price on an eight year old vehicle, did not mark up the new special ordered vehicle, and I got the loan at 1.95%.
I think the plug in Hybrid makes the most sense. Seems most can go 30-40 miles on electric only, then have a normal gas powered range. Given most people live in Urban areas, the electric range should cover much of the commuting needs.
eatskisleep
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Sadly in New England we have some of the highest electrical rates in the country too.
Additionally Cali has huge problems and brownouts with only like 5% EV’s. Never mind the 100% they are gunning for.
Cold weather and EV battery’s aren’t quite there yet either. I love Tesla but I’m sticking to my regular gas vehicle for now.
Diesel is at $6.80 now locally, many people literally won’t be able to heat their homes at that rate. Never mind how much the cost of goods will go up. Inflation is hitting hard and there aren’t yet signs of it slowing down.
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drjeff
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My wife's former car (now my daughter's as my wife just got a Volvo XC90 gas/electric hybrid.... 30 miles or so full electric range on a charge
) was/is an Audi Q7 TDI. For a big, full size, heavy, SUV, it still after just over 100k miles, gets 25-28mph depending on how much highway driving is going on, and regularly gets right around 600 miles out of a tank. That 25ish gallon tank in a fill up now with diesel at around $6.50 a gallon by our house currently is definitely eye opening at over $150 if it's close to empty when we fill it up!
ss20
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I'm not so sure. Honestly I am expecting a hard hitting, fast recession. Prices can't keep going up exponentially when people are losing thousands in the markets each day. And while most things I've read say we aren't in a housing bubble I disagree. Mortgage rates are growing exponentially and home prices have started to drop slowly. Personally I'm trying to save up for a down payment for a small home and I've lost 20% of that nest egg in the last 2 weeks.... guess it's not happening this fall as I was hoping.
We got the economy wayyyyy overheated and with the war in Ukraine clearly not a two week struggle as we all thought I think we've reached a tipping point. Gas at $4.50 a gallon, food prices up 10% y-o-y, and used cars for $20k+ are not sustainable when the stock market isn't red hot and home values aren't going up by thousands each week anymore.
And how is all this electricity generated?
Newpylong
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My wife's former car (now my daughter's as my wife just got a Volvo XC90 gas/electric hybrid.... 30 miles or so full electric range on a charge
My wife drives a gas 2016 XC90 and a good friend and coworker just passed on the plugin model due the cost vs range (or lack thereof) you mentioned.
This whole cost of gas thing is gonna hit me hard as a frequent day tripper. I'm going to have to figure out a new angle next winter I think. Might need to join a ski club or something as lodging prices have also gotten ridiculous
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thebigo
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Does Volvo offer rear captains chairs?
Storing the skis in the car all winter is a game changer, not sure I can go back.
Hawk
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Really? We are on our 4th. First two went 150K with no issues and then traded them in for 7K and 10K for new outbacks both around $30K price. With snow tires they go anywhere and kick ass. I disagree with your opinon watching my friends issues with Toyotas, Nisans, Fords and Chevys.
drjeff
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Pretty sure that the 2nd row is captains chairs. Will fully admit that I haven't specifically checked on that, and have only ridden in the front row/driven it once since she got it about 2 weeks ago
180
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We too have had 9 Suby's with little to no issues.
jimmywilson69
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I have a forester and with snows its a tank. Also never heard anyone call a Subaru overrated in any capacity
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