Hawk
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They also have opened Ellen for GMVS and the Swiss national team in years past so it is not at all unexpected.
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The "Sugarbush Thread"
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If they really are short on water, I wonder if they run a weighted average using the revenue from Season Pass Sales and Cash from GMVS & split the water up accordingly.
It would be the numbers way of doing it but they already have season pass $, GMVS money comes later in the game, right to the bottom line.
GMVS money for this year already in SB hands. Also all GMVS kids, including Junior (weekend) Program kids, pay full boat for passes in the spring and summer (not the HS pass rate) in addition to the extra fees for hill use and snowmaking.
Hawk
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GMVS paid for the T bar over there, a groomer and pay part for the power I believe. I also don't mind it closed. it means less tracked for the initiated. ;-)
Ellen and LP are different water sources. It's cheaper to run snowmaking during the day and not risk GMP power curtailments at night. Glad to see HG progressing and hope it works out. Hopefully the water issue gets Alterra to look at more water storage and more uphill water pumping capacity.
MadPadraic
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Wasn't there some plan for a second snow making pond for LP that would be located much further uphill? Whatever happened to that?
And a third pump
Where the tennis courts were across from Sugarbush Inn, I think. Don't know where that is in the process or if thar's even the spot, but I know they want something further up the hill than Rt 100.
Similarly, wasn't there a proposal under ASC to connect North to South for water? I think it was going to be a pipeline that would have fed the pond at North.
It was for air since that was the limiting factor back then.
He's not. That's normal. ME won't open to the public until the weekend before Christmas. That isn't going to change anytime soon.
My best guess is they were letting the pond refill at least a bit before trying to make more snow.
That blog post had nothing really note-worthy in it. Pretty much in line with what I expected to be said...
jimmywilson69
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Jimmy, how much do they pay you to be a fanboy?It ain't open yet. Mid December is the 15th.
I mean if someone at Sugarbush wants to have Altera credited the cost of my Ikon pass this year, I'll make Dr Jeff look like Highway Star!!!
I was just stirring the pot!
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Sunapee, Ragged and Wawa will all open this week with more vertical. Berkshire East will open Sat. They just really aren’t trying and it’s quite obvious. Zero excuse for not having access to the summit Quad by now and the 2-3ft of natural, and at a min 1 run off Lynx and something off VH.
They really really don’t care at all and it shows. Damn shame.
slatham
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When you stack them up against the competition it’s just a poor performance.
They've lucked out some other years with either decent early natural snow or being able to open higher elevation terrain to hide the weaknesses of their snow-making system. They simply can't pump enough GPMs in short windows and don't have the water storage capacity to mitigate risks of drought (or frozen rivers like they had some other years that also resulted in low flow in the Mad River).
This isn't anything new. It just is more visible this year. This isn't the first time we've talked about this topic.
This isn't anything new. It just is more visible this year. This isn't the first time we've talked about this topic.
Newpylong
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The snowmaking system at Lincoln is more than capable of performing better than you're seeing. They either made a conscious decision or the pond is an issue.
From today's blog post about ops...
"As anyone living in the northeast knows, we’ve been suffering through a drought for the vast majority of summer and fall. That has continued into early winter. What it unfortunately means is that our snowmaking ponds, and the Mad River, are at a much lower level than is historically the case for this time of year. That has an effect on our snowmaking capabilities. While we will continue making snow as much as we can moving forward, we will need to do it at a lower capacity given our water limitations."
Sounds like the pond has absolutely been an issue...
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