The "Sugarbush Thread"

[Cheetah440]

Better times are coming. Once this cutter is gone, we have favorable pattern brewing. If they can crank things up then they could get things cooking quickly. Time to turn the page and root for redemption.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

lol it’s hilarious to think of sugarbush “issuing a statement to unofficial networks”

QUICK CALL THE CLICKBAIT SKI WEB NEWS!

 

[cdskier]

BTW...we just added 17 pages to this thread in a week! That question about how long until this thread hits 1000 pages might be answered sooner rather than later at this rate.

 

[ThatGuy]

lol it’s hilarious to think of sugarbush “issuing a statement to unofficial networks”

QUICK CALL THE CLICKBAIT SKI WEB NEWS!

Next theyll issue a statement through Skiology

 

[Getskied]

Also some mis-info I see on the Ellen snowmaking system. Van Loon (Fayston school intake) pumps to CB2 (the boosters at Ellen) and then on to the main mountain. The little pond at Inverness is redundant. Ellen could do just under 3,000 GPM prior to them adding the new pumps for GMVS, which now total 2,000 GPM. So I think between the two pumphouses they can now pump what Lincoln can do - which is 4,000 GPM. Ellen has less storage (they essentially pull in real time) but that water source tends to flow with more regularity than the Mad River.

Can those boosters be used to support snowmaking beyond Inverness or they are just for covering two trails with more snow than they honestly need to be skiable for weeks after Ellen closes and then that’s it for the season?

 

[thetrailboss]

Next theyll issue a statement through Skiology

What’s the sleet skiing forecast for this week? Asking for a friend….

 

[1dog]

Damn, great minds think alike. I heard that podcast and had the same concerns. I was going to post it here. It seemed like a good topic that they did an OK job of generally discussing the issue, but like you said, it was shallow in many regards. The development that was mentioned at Stowe pre-dates Vail and even today is not at all controlled by Vail. So that was a complete red herring. The podcast also spent a lot of time Vail-bashing with no mention of Alterra. They also did not discuss why the industry is moving towards season passes. Finally, there was talk about the impact of insurance costs but nothing really said about Vermont's ridiculous regulatory environment and how that has pretty much forced ski resorts to be owned and operated by larger conglomerates with the resources to plow through those processes while local places died. I used to love VPR but they don't seem to really ask tough questions of those in power.

Idaho turned reg. hell around: https://www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2024/12/Idaho-regs.png

 

[Newpylong]

Can those boosters be used to support snowmaking beyond Inverness or they are just for covering two trails with more snow than they honestly need to be skiable for weeks after Ellen closes and then that’s it for the season?

The pumps at the bottom of Inverness are not boosters they are wet pits and no, they are just for Inverness and Brambles. However GMVS paid for them and their operation plus labor. Doesn't really matter what they need or don't in that respect.

 

[Hawk]

They replaced pumps and piping over the the last couple of years to Rim Rum, Elbow and some other trails. Most of those trails over there are already covered plus the natural. It's not a coverage issue at Ellen for sure. I have seen this first hand.

 

[Smellytele]

Better times are coming. Once this cutter is gone, we have favorable pattern brewing. If they can crank things up then they could get things cooking quickly. Time to turn the page and root for redemption.

While cold through the weekend after this latest coming in. Next wednesday the euro and GFS are showing a warmup and nonfrozen precip next wednesday. Yes It is a ways out and will most likely change but it may not

 

[djd66]

So is the goal for us to,get a shit ton of rain (this week and even next wee) so they can fill the snowmaking ponds and then we have enough water for the rest of the season?

 

[Hawk]

It's more of a reality than a goal but yes.
I am going up for the sugarbash this weekend. Maybe skin or scrape around, light off some fireworks and drink a bunch. Its better than sitting around doing nothing. ;-)

 

[jimmywilson69]

That's the spirit! NO sarcasm!

 

[djd66]

Its better than sitting around doing nothing. ;-)

we haven’t been doing nothing,… we’ve collectively generated 17 pages of new content for the AZ

 

[cdskier]

Is it even possible to "Get enough water for the rest of the season" with one event? We need the water in the river to keep flowing...

 

[Hawk]

Snow storms and some warm up even if it is just the valley will make the water flow. The pattern does not call for brutal cold so I would bet there will also be periods of melting.

 

[Getskied]

The pumps at the bottom of Inverness are not boosters they are wet pits and no, they are just for Inverness and Brambles. However GMVS paid for them and their operation plus labor. Doesn't really matter what they need or don't in that respect.

Understood, just asking in the context of your earlier statement that Ellen has similar pumping capacity to Lincoln now when in reality they would not under most circumstances make snow on the main mountain and Inverness at the same time, so effectively they max out at around 2000 GPM.

Usually capacity is not an issue regardless considering the late opening for ME, although there have been exceptions to that rule. And interesting this year in the context of the water issues at LP, which hopefully don’t linger for much longer. If they did it would be more important to try and get ME as open as possible by the holidays.

Plenty of snow up high fwiw but the natural trails would have been scraped rather clean by a weekend of lift service from a quad chair or two, judging by how well worn the trails at MRG were yesterday.

 

[Hawk]

Like I said above. They upgraded the pumps and the piping at Ellen over the last couple of years and Rim Run and Elbow are covered. The capacity of the main mountain is unknown since this upgrade as far as I know. I think Ellen would hold up well but the lines would be long without Northridge. I don't know the status of that.

 

[Shredmonkey254]

It's more of a reality than a goal but yes.
I am going up for the sugarbash this weekend. Maybe skin or scrape around, light off some fireworks and drink a bunch. Its better than sitting around doing nothing. ;-)

I will be at Sunday River, hoping not to be doing the same but at least there will be a lot more terrain to scrape... and then there is Maine beer!

 

[Hawk]

Sunday River was impressive last weekend. They have terrain on 4 different mountains, 30 trails with all the connectors done. The 8 and 6 packs with the heated seats and bubles are really nice. I felt like I was back in Austria.
FYI if there is any new snow, the connectors give your the ability to poach all kinds of terrain. All of Aroura and White Cap is closed so that is a bonus. That is all we did all weekend with my old crew over there.