Warp Daddy
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We ???? Seriously??? So are you saying AZ doesn't believe in First Amendment rights ?
Guess I'm willing to go to AZ jail then .
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The "Sugarbush Thread"
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Guess I'm willing to go to AZ jail then .
Hawk
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You will just get banned. There have been several warnings. No one is convincing anyone of anything on here. Just like anywhere else. Stick to skiiing and Sugarbush and all will be fine.
KustyTheKlown
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alpine zone cannot infringe our first amendment rights. not possible.
Warp Daddy
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Oh the horror
so sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings
Hawk
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No, you can say whatever you want, it is a free country. But they can ban people and lock the thread. That is the position they hold. I hope we don't have to test this because it's a nice place to talk about skiing. I would hate people to get shut out.
There are a million places online to discuss politics, a skiing forum doesn't need to be one of them.
There are some skiing forums that do allow it and I have participated in them in the past but largely don't any more. I've just realized that people's minds are almost never changed about politics unless it's a face to face discussion and even then it's rare. Killingtonzone allows politics, we don't, but will let the occasional comments slide as long as it doesn't get out of hand. SkiTalk most assuredly doesn't allow politics.
So, we just had a hundred posts of people going back and forth, being disrespectful to each other bordering on personal attacks.
The first amendment comment is such a lazy argument.
Think of it this way,.....TV programming. Ever watch midget porn on Nickelodeon? Me neither. Ever watch politics on Nickelodeon? No. Go find the spot online that allows it if that's what you want to do.
But it will not be here.
There are some skiing forums that do allow it and I have participated in them in the past but largely don't any more. I've just realized that people's minds are almost never changed about politics unless it's a face to face discussion and even then it's rare. Killingtonzone allows politics, we don't, but will let the occasional comments slide as long as it doesn't get out of hand. SkiTalk most assuredly doesn't allow politics.
So, we just had a hundred posts of people going back and forth, being disrespectful to each other bordering on personal attacks.
The first amendment comment is such a lazy argument.
Think of it this way,.....TV programming. Ever watch midget porn on Nickelodeon? Me neither. Ever watch politics on Nickelodeon? No. Go find the spot online that allows it if that's what you want to do.
But it will not be here.
4aprice
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Just my opinion but why have Slide Brook at all? I can't see how its use is worth the expense to run it. Correct me if I'm wrong but they have shuttle busses running between bases (and p/u and dropping off at stops along the way). I guess I'm just not a fan of transfer lifts. Wouldn't want to see it at K-Pico either. Have never felt inconvenienced by having separate ski complex's be it Sugarbush, Killington or places out west like Aspen.
Pretty certain Les Otten wanted to connect South to North with a series of lifts and terrain pods and the state said no. So it was his idea that a transfer lift would be the next best thing and he got it approved.
They used to run it all the time when it was installed and I for certain rode it most days it ran. I never bothered with the shuttle. That's like the pain in the butt of taking your skis off for a gondola x 2. So, I guess I could see how Les thought it would be popular because I liked using it, but ultimately not enough people do. It probably should go
They used to run it all the time when it was installed and I for certain rode it most days it ran. I never bothered with the shuttle. That's like the pain in the butt of taking your skis off for a gondola x 2. So, I guess I could see how Les thought it would be popular because I liked using it, but ultimately not enough people do. It probably should go
drjeff
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Having ridden both Slidey-B and taken the shuttle between the 2 before. Slidey-B, when running, makes it much easier and feasible IMHO to be able to ski/ride both mountains, with less effects on your day on the hill. as both end terminals are at mid mountain location so you can ski/ride imemdiately after you get off of it verses having to time the shuttle and then immediately upload from a base area after taking the shuttle. Much less easy to be able to get to enjoy both parts of Sugarbush in a more seamless way to me
I get it and you're probably correct. That said, it's a joy to take a ride on Slidebrook on a sunny March day.
More like x10. Half the time I've taken the shuttle, I've had to stand the entire trip.
Oh boy...you're opening a can of worms now! There's a rather substantial number of people that believe Slide Brook is an important lift to make the resort "a single resort" instead of just two separate mountains.
Convenience of the lift vs shuttle is a frequent debate. People have made the argument that the lift is much faster and more convenient. The shuttle you need to time right. You need to take your skis off and walk down to the parking lot, etc.
That said, the lift is definitely faster than the shuttle going from the ME side to the LP side as the load terminal is quite centrally located and easy to get to no matter where you are at ME. Going from LP to ME isn't quite as fast as you need to be either on the GH/NL pod or get over to that pod and take the GH lift to get to SB. If you're on the VH side or skiing HG, that's a decent amount of extra time just to get to the load terminal for Slidebrook. So from LP to ME I think the lift vs shuttle debate is not as clear-cut. From ME to LP, no doubt the lift is faster.
KustyTheKlown
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i dont really care if it runs or not.
i understand the unifying appeal especially when they need to answer the size of killington and stowe
ive rode it a few times, but im usually not bored at LP or ME and rarely feel a need to ski both in one day.
its def better than taking the shuttle. the only thing that has ever gotten me on the shuttle is a slidebrook run
i understand the unifying appeal especially when they need to answer the size of killington and stowe
ive rode it a few times, but im usually not bored at LP or ME and rarely feel a need to ski both in one day.
its def better than taking the shuttle. the only thing that has ever gotten me on the shuttle is a slidebrook run
Sell the Slide Brook to Waterville Valley. They've said for years they want a lift from the village to the slopes and it's about the length needed
When Slidebrook doesn't run I'm 95% committed to skiing one mountain or the other, but not both.
The shuttle is a massive PITA that is inconvenient and takes too long.
I can't comment on the financial aspect. But to me, if Lincoln Peak and Mount Ellen are only connected via shuttle (or your own car) then the value proposition that Sugarbush holds is seriously diminished. You're skiing a peak with 55 trails vs. 111.
slatham
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Big fan of Slide Brook. Never taken shuttle and never will unless area closure forces it.
Hawk
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The other thing is this. Les Otten gave up all future considerations for expansion into the slidebrook area in return for that lift. It would be such a waste to just give up on it now is my thought. It is quite a novilty for a big group of people and the scenery is pretty cool. It also gives you an idea of the actual scope of the entire area.
One other thought about travel time and that lift. When I take that lift I consider it a 3 lift propistion. First wait in long gatehouse line, then 15 minute lift across then wait and ride Northridge. On a busy day I have beaten friends to Walts taking the bus. But that is on a busy day with good timing with the bus. If it is cold you freee your ass off too on 3 lifts with no skiing.
One other thought about travel time and that lift. When I take that lift I consider it a 3 lift propistion. First wait in long gatehouse line, then 15 minute lift across then wait and ride Northridge. On a busy day I have beaten friends to Walts taking the bus. But that is on a busy day with good timing with the bus. If it is cold you freee your ass off too on 3 lifts with no skiing.
Hawk
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The other option I use all the time is to ski slidebrook and then grab the bus to Ellen down at the road. Same coming back. ;-)
I do enjoy riding it once in a while, but I generally stick to one side or the other on any given day. Still a fun and scenic ride though on a nice day. I think my perspective aligns mainly with Hawk's here. I think the lift should be kept, but I'm also not really personally impacted if it doesn't run all the time.
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