the year of no winter

[Greg]

ok im trying not to sound like an a-hole here but can i please just have some answers instead of people telling me how great 06-07 season was? i think you get my question.

If not allow to rephrase it.

Has there ever been a season that has been well below average

Lighten up Francis. :roll: That's not what you first asked. Your initial question was "has there ever been a season worse than the 2006-2007 season?" which implies that 2006-07 was one of the worst seasons ever. It obviously wasn't and that's why you received the replies you did.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I was just browsing through the forums from that fateful day of january the 6th. (shudders). looking at all the comments about how ski season was already half over and that winter might disappear altogether. Im sure you would agree that the 2006-2007 ski season was a year when mother nature held old man winter hostage until mid febuary.


Edit: Has there ever been a season that has been well below the typical average snowfall in regards to temperature and snowfall?

In 2006-07..I skied 119 days..mainly in the east...alot of ribbons and rainy days but there were good parts as well...anyway..I skied more that season than almost any other season..maybe part of that was because liftlines were so short...and the spring powder that season at Stowe was just so great..featherlight powder the first week in April..wowser..This season could turn into..well I don't want to Jinx anything..just ski..alot..

 

[hardline]

ok i learned a lesson today.

You need to be very specific when asking questions on here. or else people ridicule you and you dont get anywhere. Sorry guys, i failed you. better luck next time:roll:

as greg said you got the rapid fire responses becasue you implied that it was a bad season and actually was above an average snowfall year. the intial statment showed you really didn't know what you where talking about so people jumped on it. it has been the subject of much discussion on the board about the gerneral publics perception that the ski season is nov to feb when i reality it is whenever the snow falls. so if you feel people jumped on you im sorry its just gets a little tedious explaining this to everyone one. so for that im sorry plus everyone is a little crabby to get on the snow and doesn't want any downers.

 

[Euler]

I have it on good authority that 50% of all years are average or worse.

Actually, that authority is not so good. 50% of all years are worse than the median There could be any % of years average or worse. Of course, snowfall is probably fairly normally distributed, so its probably quite close to 50% of years below average, but that's not the definition of average.

 

[snoseek]

hmmmm.. 06-07 ended up being the best spring ever but it was before valentines was pretty awful. The kind of awful that enticed me to leve New England.

That spring was really x-tra nice after putting up with rain all winter. I'll never forget that spring at the loaf/SR/wildcat

 

[awf170]

ok im trying not to sound like an a-hole here but can i please just have some answers instead of people telling me how great 06-07 season was? i think you get my question.

No. but thanks for asking.





















Like others said, this is all you need. I can't remember exactly what year, but if I remember correctly there were some awful years in the 50's and 60's. If you have some free time, just go through every year, and see all the different patterns. I did it before, and thought it was quite interesting, but then again, I'm a huge dork.

http://www.uvm.edu/skivt-l/?Page=.%2Fmansel.php3&dir=.

 

[madskier6]

Let's not forget about the St. Patty's Day storm in March 2007. That was a great storm although a little less snowfall than the Valentine's Day storm that year. I hit Sugarbush North on St. Patty's Day & was able to demo all kinds of fat powder boards that day. A great ski day but the drive up north on Friday night to get there was a little scary.

 

[frozencorn]

Let's not forget about the St. Patty's Day storm in March 2007. That was a great storm although a little less snowfall than the Valentine's Day storm that year. I hit Sugarbush North on St. Patty's Day & was able to demo all kinds of fat powder boards that day. A great ski day but the drive up north on Friday night to get there was a little scary.

Yeah, I remember that one....I was in Vail when the best skiing was back here.

Great timing.

 

[Greg]

Let's not forget about the St. Patty's Day storm in March 2007. That was a great storm although a little less snowfall than the Valentine's Day storm that year. I hit Sugarbush North on St. Patty's Day & was able to demo all kinds of fat powder boards that day. A great ski day but the drive up north on Friday night to get there was a little scary.

Yep. Great storm I was driving home in it from Gore after a day of skiing frozen granular... :roll:

 

[danny p]

that st. patty's day storm was some of the driest high-quality powder I have ever skied in the east.

 

[Geoff]

No. but thanks for asking.

Like others said, this is all you need. I can't remember exactly what year, but if I remember correctly there were some awful years in the 50's and 60's. If you have some free time, just go through every year, and see all the different patterns. I did it before, and thought it was quite interesting, but then again, I'm a huge dork.

http://www.uvm.edu/skivt-l/?Page=.%2Fmansel.php3&dir=.

1956-1957 was pretty grim. I remember '79-'80 because I had a Stowe pass that season and it was freakin' awful.

 

[deadheadskier]

1956-1957 was pretty grim. I remember '79-'80 because I had a Stowe pass that season and it was freakin' awful.

It's pretty amazing when you take a Mountain like Stowe that averages around 300 inches and you see how bad historically it can get. You would think maybe 175 inches would represent the bottom, but they've had twenty seasons since 1954 with below that amount. The average for 54 through 64 was only 159.6 inches a year The 67" in 89-90 really blows my mind the most. I was a season pass holder at Okemo that winter and I recall a solid 5 years in a row in the late 80's with snowfall below 100 inches, but in comparison to their average of 150ish, it didn't seem as bad as how it must have seemed in Stowe.

I can only imagine what the rest of New England was like during that time, unless the vast majority of the snow during that era came via coastal Noreasters

 

[JD]

Let's not forget about the St. Patty's Day storm in March 2007. That was a great storm although a little less snowfall than the Valentine's Day storm that year. I hit Sugarbush North on St. Patty's Day & was able to demo all kinds of fat powder boards that day. A great ski day but the drive up north on Friday night to get there was a little scary.

Agreed. I was catering the Back Country Magazine Ski test at J. 40 inches in 2 days, free lift passes and 60 pairs of 08 boards to "test". Felt like a movie star. By sunday afternoon I was litereally subing out under 3 feet of true blower....MMMMM, Powder.

 

[mlctvt]

1956-1957 was pretty grim. I remember '79-'80 because I had a Stowe pass that season and it was freakin' awful.

yup, '79-80 was really bad and that was basically the only reason I started downhill skiing! I was a senior in high school and up until then I was only a cross-country skier. I signed up for the annual school ski trip to Waterville valley in late Jan '80 I was going to cross country ski with several friends but there was no snow in the woods, none nothing IN JANUARY!! It was raining on the way there and there were only a couple of trails of man made snow. I had a blast on my first downhill day though and never looked back. I don't think I've cross country skied more than a couple of dozen times since then.
Opps sorry to hijack , '79-80 did suck.

 

[awf170]

Many that have been far worse. According to this website, Stowe only received 67 inches of snow in 1989

http://www.telemarktips.com/Snofall.html


I hold 06-07 well above average. I thought it was a fantastic season

Those snow totals are wicked low. My quick guess is about 30-40% too low. So they probably got about a 100 inches that year.

Actually looking at this graph, I would say that they got at least 120 inches that season. Probably closer to 150.

 

[deadheadskier]

Those snow totals are wicked low. My quick guess is about 30-40% too low. So they probably got about a 100 inches that year.

Actually looking at this graph, I would say that they got at least 120 inches that season. Probably closer to 150.

What are you talking about? I read it on the internet so it has to be true :lol:

 

[dmc]

if not allow to rephrase it.

Has there ever been a season that has been well below average

yes

 

[dmc]

January thaws happen.... Seasoned skiers know this.... and don't get too freaked out...

 

[4aprice]

Let's not forget about the St. Patty's Day storm in March 2007. That was a great storm although a little less snowfall than the Valentine's Day storm that year. I hit Sugarbush North on St. Patty's Day & was able to demo all kinds of fat powder boards that day. A great ski day but the drive up north on Friday night to get there was a little scary.

One of the best days I've ever skied in PA. 17-Inches at Camelback and for some reason no one was out (either couldn't get there or had hung it up for the season). We were still skiing powder at 3:30 because the wind was really blowing and depositing stashes on the lee side of the trees. After skiing that all day we had a great St Patty's day party at the bar. It's a day that stay's lodged in the memory bank.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

 

[Zand]

I was at Stowe St. Pattie's weekend that year. 3 feet. I was also at MRG two days before the VD blizzard... too bad I missed that one.