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VAIL SUCKS

Edd

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If Wildcat, Attitash and Crotched are only open part time in the weekdays it seems that’s a significant enough change that anyone with a Northeast or especially a mid week north east pass should be given the option to cancel their pass.
That’s when I’d snap and bail.
 

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I just signed up for a mid week north east pass at the senior rate. I am a Magic Mountain pass holder but I am not going to work this winter. Step one for a ski bum is passes. That gets me M, Tu, W, early season and Stowe. My house is halfway between Okemo and Sunapee. Plus I can meet friends on weekdays instead of dragging them to Magic. Early season at Okemo, Sunapee and Mt. Snow. Plus maybe a week or two at the tail of the season. Can't lose for $271. Stoked.
 

joshua segal

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The attitash gm will be the gm of both places. They already share snow making employees between them. Wildcat with be open 3 days a week and attitash 4. Neither open on Wednesday. Blame it on lack of staff.
crotched and Sunapee will share a gm. Crotched wilL only be open Friday through Monday.
Do you have a source for this information that you can share?
 

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Do you have a source for this information that you can share?
Hes joking. Or at least half joking. They offer a northeast midweek anyhow so I think at the very least 7 day operations are happening. They will probably hack stuff like snowmaking.. like I've said I'm hoping last year was rock bottom.
 

deadheadskier

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Says everyone every year since 2017.

2019

That's when Vail bought it. They did okay, not great their first season. Then we had last year's mess. Even a return to 2019-2020 would not be as good (at least at Wildcat) as how Peak ran the place. They were trending upwards in their management of the place ever since the snowmaking upgrades in 2014-2015. At least as far as the amount of acreage they made snow on and being aggressive for an early November opening. 2019-2020 took a step back once Vail was in charge.
 

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So Hunter/Vail was really pushing for sale these past couple days. Did anyone else notice that the website or facebook for hunter is completely "Ghosted"? No one question answered, camera's are down and nobody answers the phone. Yet they want us to plop down over $500 per, without any info. Crazy why to run a business! Vails facebook page has comments from Vail it's self on it. BTW they have implemented masks indoors now.
 

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So Hunter/Vail was really pushing for sale these past couple days. Did anyone else notice that the website or facebook for hunter is completely "Ghosted"? No one question answered, camera's are down and nobody answers the phone. Yet they want us to plop down over $500 per, without any info. Crazy why to run a business! Vails facebook page has comments from Vail it's self on it. BTW they have implemented masks indoors now.

That is because the September 6th date was fast approaching and they always get a boatload of people to buy before the price goes up. All ski areas do that - not uncommon. As far as Hunters site it looks to be live and well for me. If you want info - go to https://www.epicpass.com/ BTW that price has gone up just a tad, Hunters facebook site did have a link to the same website I pointed out more or less just embedded into Hunters website.
 

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Those are some surprisingly low increases. Did they not hit the numbers they were hoping for? So they're trying to keep the increases lower to encourage more purchases?
 

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Stock price has been on the decline for a few months and they need some good numbers to turn it around I bet.
Thats going to backfire in 2022 if even more people witness a repeat of last season in some of their ski areas.
 

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Thats going to backfire in 2022 if even more people witness a repeat of last season in some of their ski areas.

I completely agree.

Vail has been out of properties to buy for a few seasons now. Theyve wayyyy oversold their epic passes and people are tired of crappy experiences. And now people have viable alternatives with the Ikon pass and Indy pass.

I have no clue what Vails next move is.
 

deadheadskier

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I completely agree.

Vail has been out of properties to buy for a few seasons now. Theyve wayyyy oversold their epic passes and people are tired of crappy experiences. And now people have viable alternatives with the Ikon pass and Indy pass.

I have no clue what Vails next move is.

Their plan is to continue to undercut and take as much Ikon business as possible. They have a lot more control over the pricing of their passes than Ikon does.
 

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If Vail puts out another BOHICA year I am going to buy IKON for next year even if it means I have to travel 6 hours to ski. I tell my wife that I'd rather have one good steak than 10 lousy healthy steaks. The same for ski areas.

I wonder if Vail management (like Katz) reads this forum?
 
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ThatGuy

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Their plan is to continue to undercut and take as much Ikon business as possible. They have a lot more control over the pricing of their passes than Ikon does.
I completely agree, I just don’t see that as sustainable at all for more than a couple seasons. It especially sucks for the regulars of the mountains that get the scrooge mcduck treatment.
 
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